BF2 #3 - Special Forces • SUBMIT FEEDBACK: Special Forces Server

26.01.2017, 21:59 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
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I create this topic to discuss the SF-Server coming soon.
There are some questions:

1) How many rounds should be played on one Map?
-Map change after every round (that is what I favor)
or
-Teamswitch after one round and map change after two rounds?

2) Which maps should be in the rotation?
The following Maps available:

-Ghost town
-Warlord
-Iron gator
-Leviathan
-Surge
-Mass destruction
-Devil's perch
-Night flight

Personally I like all maps except Devil's perch, especially Warlord, Ghost town and Iron gator. I suggest the following map order, to ensure a maximum of diversion between the rounds:

1) Iron gator
2) Night flight
3) Ghost town
4) Leviathan
5) Mass destruction
6) Warlord
7) Surge

27.01.2017, 19:06 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I'd go for "-Teamswitch after one round and map change after two rounds".
For the map rotation, it looks good to me. I didn't play SF that much either (mainly cause I don't have time to play the regular game either, but also because the only populated - and Ranked - Server was in US and the latency made in unplayable for me).

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24.03.2017, 21:39 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
LOL I got banned from the Server for saying "OKAY, FOR THE MOMENT, LET'S ENJOY SPECIAL FORCES FUCK YEAH! " Laugh

ahah

Battlelog.co Post: http://battlelog.co/post.php?id=30997.
Please promote this shit like, everywhere possible, where it wouldn't harm promoting! smiling

Let's also discuss some changes and give feedback, in this thread. I have thrown in all the maps, two rounds per map, time limit 30 minutes, 16 Players maps / Player cap. The idea, for the moment, is to have a small CQC Server to be toyed with, filled, promoted, get it going, growing.

Once it's filled all the time, I plan to bump it up to 24 Players, I think I'll have to push the map size to 32 at that point too. But I'm open to feedback; my idea for the moment is taking the slow start approach, get popular, increase the size, rock hard eventually. smile

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24.03.2017, 22:54 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
First of all a big thank you for the creation of a special forces server smiling

I'm sure it will be a great success.

My first suggestion: Switch the teams after each round

25.03.2017, 11:05 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts

LOL I got banned from the Server for saying "OKAY, FOR THE MOMENT, LET'S ENJOY SPECIAL FORCES FUCK YEAH! amused" Laugh ahah

I agree...switch the teams after each rounds.

I can not say much about the maps yet.

The last map we play jesterday together...was this "Night Flight" Carbon???...This Card I like

25.03.2017, 12:20 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
no it was "Leviathan" and I agree, that map is great

25.03.2017, 12:26 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
aaahhhh ok wink

25.03.2017, 13:18 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Oh yeah switch teams was disabled yesterday! I have enabled it now; there were more options that seemed to be different from the other Servers but I've checked them all on BF2CC now and it seems they match the regular BF2 Servers we have. VOIP should also be working? I still don't use it. :'D

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01.04.2017, 15:01 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okay so,

I've bumped the map size to 32 and the Player cap to 24!
Time limit has been pushed to 60 minutes too.

Let me know now how it is,
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09.04.2017, 05:08 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

Rico946 mentioned to me that he believes we should stick to a 64-Player SF Server because most who play SF want to play with all the vehicles., and i tend to agree. Thoughts?

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09.04.2017, 05:18 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I haven't played in the Special Forces Server recently (I also reiterate our blind promotion here by placing a reply during weekends, plis ^_^ not everybody at the same time, leave some space between your replies), but if within the 32 size you'll find an Helicopter within the maps, for me the size is fine like that.

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09.04.2017, 12:05 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
I agree with rico and 5tarLine. Most of the sf maps are not that big even in 64 map size. All the battlelog players are used to play with that size

09.04.2017, 18:57 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

SW03_Carbon wrote:

I agree with rico and 5tarLine. Most of the sf maps are not that big even in 64 map size. All the battlelog players are used to play with that size

Well, let's put it like this: ours is the only 32 size Ranked SF Server at this point in time. Right now, there are two other EU Ranked Servers, 64 size. They're empty, ours is 20/24 right now and has been going up and down all day.

In my opinion we can build this Server both by having a group of dedicated SF Players kickstarting the matches, as well as having the map size / player cap follow the popularity of the Server: when there's demand for it, it means we're popular ⇨ increase the map size.

With smaller sizes that's true, you don't have the full playground to play with, but starting a Server is much easier and keeping it full, desirable, is easier I think. Eventually I have also asked for feedback on battlelog.co, regarding this size debate; I hope some battlelog.co Forumers will engage the discussion.

We will see, I am open to changes, I just want to discuss them properly, think them through.
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09.04.2017, 19:50 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
The SF Server has been active all day, performing really well overall. For much of the day it was around half full and currently nearly full, good job.

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22.04.2017, 18:57 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Can you increase the number of players? Lately, it is often full. Then you do not come in teh game

22.04.2017, 19:23 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Yeah, it's time for an increase. Next on the line is an increase of map size as well, but I still need feedback over battlelog.co's thread. I've gotten a couple of opinions from Players and one told me it's balanced like this, 32 size. There are some helicopters on some of the maps.

Let's leave it like this for the moment, see if the additional 8 slots get used or not. smiling

29.04.2017, 15:07 - Rico946 - Administrator - 170 Posts
lets change it to 64 size map with 32 or 48 players.

29.04.2017, 15:44 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Rico946 wrote:

lets change it to 64 size map with 32 or 48 players.

Let's see how this weekend goes; next week I'll probably consider increasing it. Somebody please add a reply to the thread on battlelog.co, today: http://battlelog.co/post.php?id=30997

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14.05.2017, 21:45 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Server has gone really quiet over the past 2 weeks.
I am not seeing much activity, are you? smile

10.06.2017, 18:54 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
nope not much going on in sf lately unhappy

hi all,
thanks for your server with rules and autoadmin.
but could you switch to 64 maps please?
32 is not bad for a change every once in a while but i think 64 is preffered.

thanks

10.06.2017, 20:24 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Hello dsghsdf,

with 64 players you'll need 4 players to join you, I think. But even if you needed just 2, how do you imagine a 2 vs 2 fight on a 64 players map would be? I'll tell you what, boring! Is that what you guys want? :o

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10.06.2017, 21:17 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Some maps are not that big even in 64 player size, at least not compareable to the vanilla BF2 maps. Moreover the difference between 32 and 64 is small for most maps. All SF players are used to the 64 map size since battlelog only provides that map size.

The problem we have is that only a few people of our team plays SF very active. We could easily fill up the server when we would get 4-6 players of our team together.

dsghsdf is a very experienced and regularly active SF player. I think we should consider his suggestion and give it a try.

10.06.2017, 22:55 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
4 players to start the game sux but its same on the other servers, no disadvantage for you.
64 maps have more flags and vehicles = more options to take flag and keep game going.
and 2vs2 can be just as lame on 64, 32 or 16.
its players choice if they want to fight with vehicle and commander or just walk around and try funny stuff.
somebody just needs to join 1 sf server and more people will join, works like that since first bl sf server.

10.06.2017, 23:21 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okie dokie then; it's not the first time this got suggested.
Actually everyone is suggesting it on and off so, have fun. amused

11.06.2017, 13:25 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
molto bene, grazie comandante

13.06.2017, 19:22 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
one team has squadbug today.
cant open squads but commander works.. unhappy

and
is it allowed to take flags with heli through the deck on iron gator?

13.06.2017, 19:38 - MitchS66 - Junior Technician - 157 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

is it allowed to take flags with heli through the deck on iron gator?

In my personal opinion I would assume that would be abusing some for of in-game glitch to gain an unfair advantage. However, as I have not played too much of Special Forces I believe that other users would have something more to add to this than myself. However, I believe that the Senior LS Admins may have something important to say about this.

Thanks,
Mitch

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13.06.2017, 21:01 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
No dsghsdf, as you have reported it here in more detail, capping flags through the helicopter is still considered a glitch; and we usually ban them if they ignore our warnings and keep glitching exploiting the glitch. Other admins may ban a glitcher on sight.

Regarding the other nuisances, well, that's BF2 for you! amused

Those are bugs within the game, if they're still present I will try to reboot the Server. Let me know, and thank you for your inputs so far.

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13.06.2017, 21:23 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
ok, thanks shark and mitch.
the "glitch" is kind of borderline since its still possible to kill him.
but rounds are over quick and boring if mecs do it.
and i dont know if the squadbug will fix itself, i assumed it needs a restart.
i never hosted a bf2 server and we had no squads in bf42 tongue

12.07.2017, 15:55 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
hi guys,
could somebody set an idlemap? i think it would be easier to get players with more popular maps like ghosttown or warlord as starter.
maybe setup a mapcycle like this

Warlord - gets the easteuros on the server(timezone), no helis
Ghost Town - small map, all types of vehicles, can be played inf only too, popular
Night Flight - inf/light vehicle night map
Iron Gator - fight inside carrier
Mass Destruction
Devils Perch
Surge
Leviathan

the other maps are good too, people join them but they can be serverkillers too.
MD has no mainbase and if RU gets 2 hinds then its mostly just massacre for rebels, spawnrape at last flag.
DP and Levi can be serverkiller and lots of empty servers get stuck on them.
Surge is good map imo, all vehicles, maybe helps to keep server going between DP and Levi.

maybe test for some days, make some changes like switch GT-WL, Surge - MD, NF - IG, DP - Levi and see what happens.
or run GT, WL and ... a 2nd time after DP.

and/or could you set the playernumber required to start a mapvote to 2? now its 8 or 10.
with lower setting people could switch from serverkiller, just a handfull of players on Levi is no fun and they cant change map now, so they all leave.
3 empty servers are stuck on Devils Perch right now and the only way to change map is to idle and wait for 2 or more players to take all flags
:-/

thank you

13.07.2017, 20:42 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

and/or could you set the playernumber required to start a mapvote to 2? now its 8 or 10.

No, I am afraid that it's hard-coded in the server binary files;
we can't change that logic unless we dig into the binary code I guess.

EDIT: Actually there's a setting called "Minimum Players for Voting" and it's currently set to 12, but I don't know if it's for kicks or map votings, or both. I have lowered it to 4, let me know if you notice any changes please!!! (on BF2CC it says minimum number of votes for a poll to be successful ).

Please explain what a "idlemap" is; I understood your statements but I did not quite understand what an idlemap is. I mean, it looks like you want to eliminate idlemaps from the rotation! (so that the Server wouldn't be killed).

@everyone please discuss what dsghsdf said and let me know your thoughts! Instead of creating a map rotation from zero - which is harder - let's try to work our way from the one we have now ... make small adjustments here and there, test them ... babysteps.

- Devils Perch
- Ghost Town
- Iron Gator
- Leviathan
- Mass Destruction
- Night Flight
- Surge
- Warlord

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14.07.2017, 13:36 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

Minimum Players for Voting

that should be the setting. vote for mutiny, mapvote, kickvote. thanks i will test it.

idlemap: map #1 in mapcycle, quasi. the server idles on that map until players join and start the game, if server goes empty it switches back to that map.
i dont want to eliminate/take out maps, all are good for some fun, but some attract more players then others.
sf servers often get stuck empty on unpopular map in the evening and players have to continue on them later/the next day, if there is no serverrestart.
three popular sf servers were stuck on devils perch 3 days ago f.e. today just one, not yours.

mapcycle now

- Devils Perch - killer
- Ghost Town - poular
- Iron Gator - popular (or not, noobs get confused inside carrier an raped by heli outside)
- Leviathan - killer
- Mass Destruction - medium
- Night Flight - medium
- Surge - medium (big map, problem for the "too much walking"-guys..)
- Warlord - popular

my mapcycle example

Warlord - pop
Ghost Town - pop
Night Flight - med
Iron Gator - pop
Mass Destruction - med
Devils Perch - kill
Surge - med
Leviathan - kill

it depends at what times the maps get played too.
usually its every map once per evening/night, sometimes few more maps.

other ideas to get/keep players on your server;
set the number required to start game to 1 and make all unlock weapons available to low-ranks.
those were requirments for ranking, right? well... you know..
maybe some care less about points if they have all unlocks and keep playing on server with rules and admins.

I understood your statements

thank you

14.07.2017, 15:36 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

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"Minimum Players for Voting" works with 4 players now, thx.

14.07.2017, 20:54 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
"idlemap: map #1 in mapcycle, quasi. the server idles on that map until players join and start the game, if server goes empty it switches back to that map." ~ Are you sure about that? o.O On my book if the server goes empty, it will finish the current map (because the round has started so it will eventually time out) and then idle on the next map in the rotation, waiting for 2 or more players to join. I could be wrong though, as this is just a theory I haven't tested myself.

"set the number required to start game to 1"
I don't think this will be necessary. Will it help if a server gets stuck? The first player will have to idle anyways because there are no opponents; the timer will go on and eventually the map might change ... but what if it's a good map and it then changes to a worse map?

"make all unlock weapons available to low-ranks"
I have to think about this ... I want to discuss this with @everyone. It is true that we are not Ranked any longer so part of what you say is correct; but I don't know if I am comfortable to push this setting to the Special Forces server only.

"Minimum Players for Voting" works with 4 players now, thx.
Then I will push it to 6, my original intention. I put it to 4 to make it more obvious if the change was working or not; let me know if there are episodes where '4' should have been better.

I invite the other SF Forum users to join this thread to discuss; especially on the map rotation.
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14.07.2017, 23:57 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
idlemap
yes you are right and no im not sure about it. i know that settings from bf42 and thought i have seen it on bf2 servers.
now it works like you are saying, with idlemap the server would change to that map. start mapcycle again, with unpopular maps at the end.
i would be suprised if that setting is gone but then again its bf2...

"set the number required to start game to 1"
yes you are right again. but the 1 player could take flags, spawn vehicles. keeps him occupied and on the server.
its just another setting/idea

unlocks
roger

"Minimum Players for Voting"
4 or even 2 would be better. 2 would help with commanders and mutiny..
to many damn commanders when there are only handull of players....
t-gamer has commanders disabled if playernumber is below 20 or something tongue

15.07.2017, 15:00 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

let me know if there are episodes where '4' should have been better

yesterday night, devils perch.
imagine 1 (more) player using commander and teams not fighting flag by flag, thats what usually happens.

you use bf2cc, right? wich version?
i did some research and the only thing about bf2 idlemaps i found was some site thats only accessible through webarchives to me.
Link
Feature Requests - Auto-Admin Features -
When the server is idle for a set time (time to set by server admin) switch to the map flagged "idle-map"

guess it didnt get implemented!?
soo...Fuggetaboutit?

15.07.2017, 22:41 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
""Minimum Players for Voting" works with 4 players now, thx.
But how does it work? I mean, it means that you need to collect 4 YES for a poll to be successful?
Only 4, no matter how many people are in the server? I thought it was related to how many players were playing. In fact I don't want the polls to be abused ... that's why I brought it up to 6 now. How does it work?

Yeah it appears that your statement about the idle map is not so true after all. We use the last version available for BF2CC and there is no option or flag to set a map as 'idlemap'. Yesterday we finished playing on Devils Perch, right? This late morning the map was Ghost Town, the next in the rotation. Then in the early afternoon the map was Iron Gator (the next after Ghost Town) and the match was in idle mode too. Now the map is the next one again, Leviathan, and I bet if you join it's in idle mode (id est pre-game) again.

But anyways I am keen on making changes on the rotation given your thoughts about the map; I'd like more folks to discuss about the map rotation. Unfortunately some LS Members that fancy Special Forces are busy with their IRL duties so they can't participate to this discussion. I am also interested in the commander discussion ... when there's few players, a good commander can really make the match different and make it hell for the enemy team (if it's a smart commander).

For example the last night when we were playing, we were on Mass Destruction and we had a commander, your team didn't. This meant we had a huge advantage. I tried to search for ways to restrict the commander usage under a certain threshold of players but I couln't find it within our configurations nor on google. So if you know or are able to get how T-Gamer is enforcing this limitation let me know; I may think about it.

Finally with your map cycle you're stacking all the medium/unpopular maps at the end. So doesn't this mean the server will get killed anyways when Devils Perch starts?

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16.07.2017, 02:05 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
its a pity, usefull setting gone. it helped to get servers going with good/smaller maps in the beginning and big maps later.
or setup chronologic cycle from 39-45 in a ww2 mod.
and yes my sf mapcycle doesnt make much sense without it.

without idlemap i would say make sure 3 maps run bewteen them but try to keep warlord and ghosttown together.
or keep Levi and Perch together?
if server is dead its dead. if people want to play those maps they can join and play.
if they want to vote they can skip both and keep going for another 6 maps.
i dont know.. maybe depends on vote setting.

it means that you need to collect 4 YES for a poll to be successful

no, you need 4 players on server to start a kick or mapvote and 4 players in team to start mutiny. maybe 4+1commander, not sure.
the ammount of players needed to make votes succesfull is some other setting, looks like 60 or 70% ingame, ok imo.

there are many votes but i dont think its abuse/ just for fun votes.
often mapvotes just fail with just 1 or 2 votes missing, then 2 people disconnect and the other 5 cant skip Perch because votes disabled, server dead with 5 potential players.
and its rare that somebody gets kickvoted off the server for fun.
some try but fail, if they get annoying they get kickvoted themself, with success.

with setting 2 the players would have abit of control over the server.
2 guys can vote the map they want to play on, idle on better map, or practice something
or kickvote the 3rd guy wallhacker
or mutiny the spamcommander in a 3 vs 2 no-rank noobs

ways to restrict the commander....I may think about it

now that would be a dream! i will see what i can do.

commander is the worst in bf2, its like minimaphack for all, wtf
red dot hunting.. kids dont play hide and seek anymore?
back in the day one guy had to spot the enemy with binoculars and another aim artygun, and no points for the spotter!!
and not just some click and $$$ on minimap /rant

thanks sharky, next kill is free for you amused

16.07.2017, 19:10 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

thanks sharky, next kill is free for you amused

Ahah. Well okay that I misunderstood what the minimum players required was about; I am putting it back to 4.

Based on your suggestion I will also alter the server messages to let people know that they can start a map vote with only 4 people; hopefully more and more will learn about it and when a killer map starts - if people don't really want to play it at all - they'll be able to skip it. How does that sound?

This is the current map rotation; can't think of many changes I'd make myself.

- Devils Perch
- Ghost Town
- Iron Gator
- Leviathan
- Mass Destruction
- Night Flight
- Surge
- Warlord

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16.07.2017, 21:02 - Rico946 - Administrator - 170 Posts
Lets Remove Devils Perch and Leviathan.

16.07.2017, 21:38 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Rico946 wrote:

Lets Remove Devils Perch and Leviathan.

Alltogether? Laugh

ahah I don't have any problem with them.
dsghsdf let me know; shall we try to remove them from the rotation?

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EDIT: If we're going to eliminate them then I don't know if it's even worth altering the scrolling messages. :'D

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17.07.2017, 00:39 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
yea i tried to find another solution but maybe remove them, for now.
the nightmaps are sf special but there is still Night Flight..
thanks for 4player vote.

17.07.2017, 20:59 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Map rotation edited as per Rico946 request.
I guess we will see how it goes; if there's demand for it we'll reintegrate them.

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18.07.2017, 15:26 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
ok, thanks.

about the commander ~~execution~~ limitation.
i heard you have contact with t-gamers tema567?
and he could be willing to share the script.
could you ask him, i dont know him.
i think i also found a script that kicks commanders, i like it but probably a bit harsh tongue

as you said, commander makes teams (more) uneven and imo its just lame to use it with just few players on rather small map.
i realize its part of bf2 and it can be fun and exciting to have 2 teams fighting with commanders but thats rare in sf, lack of players.
most of the times its just teamstacking and noob hunting/spawncamping or they (try) to ues it for themself only.
no commander boosts teamplay over time.

imo, it was one of the reasons why sf got only 30 players max in the beginning of BL.
lots of different people joined sf, full 64 server could have been possible but most didnt stay long because of teamstacking and getting camped by commander+friends in mainbase.
the playercount dropped, gameplay became "normal", new people joined and it startet again.

without commander,noobs have better chance to sneak past better players to get a flag, suprise attacks etc
the problem i see with no-commander is that if all flags are taken, the last guy alive could just hide forever, others cant find him, get bored, leave server.

no?

18.07.2017, 20:11 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

Without commander,noobs have better chance to sneak past better players to get a flag, suprise attacks etc
the problem i see with no-commander is that if all flags are taken, the last guy alive could just hide forever, others cant find him, get bored, leave server.

Well yeah that is true; there are some pros and cons about making this decision.
I will discuss it internally. Are you aware of what is T-Gamer's player threshold for this no-commander setting?

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19.07.2017, 12:09 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

T-Gamer's settings

no i dont know but it should be easy to change settings.

I will discuss it internally

yes please and the unlocks for all, thank you.

shark in #4 server thread wrote:

Maintenance exists but it happens quite rarely on our servers

its still better then other SF servers. i saw the bl server running for 500+ rounds nonstop without restart
and the Veterans server was at 200 rounds two days ago, lags, bugs and shit hitreg.
but if you would use some scipt for daily server restarts then things would run even better and you could set a first map in rotation(idlemap).
your autoadmin is bugged sometimes.
just another idea.

thanks

19.07.2017, 13:26 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Let's just say that the BF2 AUTOADMIN has received a finer tuning over time whilst the SF AUTOADMIN I believe is still stock, default release. If you noted down some bugs let us know in greater detail, we'll see if we can work them out or not.

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19.07.2017, 17:46 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
ah ok, it didnt seem to detect fighting commanders yesterday for example.
maybe ghost towns antibaserape-zone is too big, people get warned when they drive with boat from waterflags to bridges.
people dont get kicked often that way but maybe abit annoying for some.
autoadmin works good for the most part i think.

24.07.2017, 07:26 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Let's just say that the BF2 AUTOADMIN has received a finer tuning over time whilst the SF AUTOADMIN I believe is still stock, default release. If you noted down some bugs let us know in greater detail, we'll see if we can work them out or not.

Well, it's definitely not the 'stock, default release' because as you'll see on Servers like Super@ and anyone else running it, that version doesn't work at all anymore Laugh

. Our AutoAdmin has been developed a lot more since that version but as the SF Server was never originally planned and we haven't had it online for that long really the AutoAdmin has not been empirically tested at all for SF by us and has had no special attention / fine-tuning yet.

dsghsdf wrote:

ah ok, it didnt seem to detect fighting commanders yesterday for example.
maybe ghost towns antibaserape-zone is too big, people get warned when they drive with boat from waterflags to bridges.
people dont get kicked often that way but maybe abit annoying for some.
autoadmin works good for the most part i think.

Some features of Auto-Admin will never be 100% perfect all of the time. Partly because BF2's Codebase is far from perfect and partly because it's nearly impossible to code for every possible occurrence / eventuality that can occur in-game, you can just try to cover most of them / the main ones.

For the record, if you are wondering why AutoAdmin didn't pick something up you expected it to regarding Commander's here are the current settings in place for the SF Server:

https://s11.postimg.cc/nnudh3fwj/image.png

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At the moment further development of AutoAdmin is on hold because as I'm sure you can imagine - there are bigger priorities currently.

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30.07.2017, 21:41 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
could you check the soldier, jeep, armor box under "forbid commander to kill with", please.
always some cnut using it with just a handfull of players, boring gameplay.
same people stack teams, spawnkill at last flag or try to baserape.

ty

31.07.2017, 18:18 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Well that's a bit of an overkill for commanders I guess. :'D Maybe armor, ok, but if we are going to prevent them to kill from jeep and weapons too I'd rather disable commander under a certain threshold of players.

Regarding team stacking and attempted baseraping, the former is within the players to change I assume, whilst the latter should be dealt by adminmap (nonetheless again the players should behave fairly and not baserape, this for uncaps though. For the "last flag spawnkilling" I think that's up to the players as well unhappy

).

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31.07.2017, 19:45 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

that's up to the players

true, but we know how things are. i think they need a bit "help".
your rules say
>> No Fighting Commanders - Commanders May Defend But Must Do Their Job
they are not just defending, they are attacking and taking flags.

and if you look here
http://i64.tinypic.com/28iak4x.jpg
thread
https://www.lost-soldi...0&type=ASC&page=1

he gets warning for killing with inf weapons.

settings have changed. :/

disable commander under a certain threshold of players

please

11.08.2017, 19:17 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
autoadmin seems to be off now

11.08.2017, 20:45 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

autoadmin seems to be off now

It was, thank you. I have also edited the violations according to your screenshot.
Now commanders cannot fight with anything; they can only do their duties.

So this should alleviate just a little bit the situations when only one of the two teams
has a fighting commander that knows what to do and takes part into the fight as well.

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11.08.2017, 21:45 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Everything works again. Thank you

12.08.2017, 01:33 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
hurray for our friendly neighbourhood shark.
come join us next time, collect your free kills smiling

12.08.2017, 21:18 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

hurray for our friendly neighbourhood shark.
come join us next time, collect your free kills smiling

errrr collect my free *deaths maybe! Laugh

29.08.2017, 18:33 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Current problems.

Autoadmin kickt people because of camp in fixed base. The area for this is sometimes too big. Autoadmin kickt people when those with the car are close to the base (but not in the base)
Maybe we would have to reduce the circle around the base something the autoadmin does not strike so fast.

After the restart of the server the Autoadmin no longer warns. After the 3 offense he kicks without a reason to call.

We did a test earlier. dsghsdf has fought as a commander. 2 people killed. No warning after the 3rd kill, he was kicked without reason.

https://fs5.directuplo...mages/170829/itiqed3n.jpg

29.08.2017, 18:48 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
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my pov. no warning ingame just kick after 3kills as commander.

and yes the mainbase-warning/kick zone is big on ghost town.
lots of warnings and sometimes kicks if they drive from waterflags to bridgeflags, both sides.
happens to new players most times.

sharky, join sf and find out about death or kill tongue

30.08.2017, 00:02 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
The behavior you depicted about AdminMap is very weird, on top of that in the screenie Princess_unicorn posted the messages are not in the usual "big orange" fashion, which makes me think ...

I will investigate this as soon as possible. Did any of you witness similar odd behaviors of our AdminMap on other servers of ours too?

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30.08.2017, 13:05 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
`Did any of you witness similar odd behaviors of our AdminMap on other servers of ours too?`

Yesterday on the 'Gulf of Oman' there was Mr. Fighting Commander 'Bog76dan'. As usually he did fly jet and heli while commanding but he recieved no warnings.
Then suddenly the autoadmin kicked him with 'you have to many violations'. I can provide some screenshots in discord if its needed.

30.08.2017, 13:07 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts

i'd rather disable Commander under a certain threshold of players

Good idea

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30.08.2017, 14:00 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

Dillmann wrote:

`Did any of you witness similar odd behaviors of our AdminMap on other servers of ours too?`

Yesterday on the 'Gulf of Oman' there was Mr. Fighting Commander 'Bog76dan'. As usually he did fly jet and heli while commanding but he recieved no warnings.
Then suddenly the autoadmin kicked him with 'you have to many violations'. I can provide some screenshots in discord if its needed.

Fighting Commander detection is disabled if the player is the only one alive on his/her team. Was it 1v1?

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30.08.2017, 15:53 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

5tarline wrote:

Was it 1v1?

not in our SF test. 2on2 or something.

shark wrote:

you are always referring to the Ghost Town map, right?
North or South main base?

ghost town both sides. you cant drive along the river/under bridge without getting warned/kicked.
surge is no big problem i think.
http://ferociousbeaver...es/SurgeUncapBoundary.jpg
i just found that surge picture. looks like your autodamin zone too.
some people drive from checkpoint flag to outer ridge flag past the mainbase with cars.

http://ferociousbeaver...ndries/GhostTownUncap.png
here i found a ghost town pic but it looks worse. you dont get warnings on your server if you are west from ru base f.e.
i dont know for sure where the borders are on ghost town, i didnt test it myself just seen people get warned for driving along the river.
i think the borders should be on the mainbase coast. opens up the already small map.

30.08.2017, 20:17 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okay so I have checked both BF2CC and compared the AdminMap configuration with the one of Wake Island and there are no odd settings; the only difference being the commander cannot kill with weapons and jeeps as well, as we discussed some pages ago.

These are the flag zones of Surge, I suppose the orange square is the one causing the problem right? The players go through that square and are warned to leave the safe base right?

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30.08.2017, 20:36 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
yes probably the orange one but could be the red box topleft corner too.
its that small part of street.
but the important flags are north anyway. outer ridge has 1 tank and inner ridge just cars.
ghost town rivers are more important imo.

the autoadmin works its just the ingame messages thats missing.

31.08.2017, 12:52 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts

5tarLine wrote:

Fighting Commander detection is disabled if the player is the only one alive on his/her team. Was it 1v1?

No this was 'conquest'. smiling

31.08.2017, 13:29 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Maybe everything just needs a reboot. :o None of us modified anything, at least on AdminMap. unhappy

About the flag zones we can tweak them as much as we want, so if you say there's a problem on ghost town I will take a look at its zones when it's online or when tge server is empty.

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31.08.2017, 14:00 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

myself wrote:

outer ridge has 1 tank and inner ridge just cars

i ment checkpoint, not inner ridge.

yes please post a picture of ghost town, probably similar to surge.
just a small area were people pass through.
thanks shark

31.08.2017, 14:22 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

Dillmann wrote:

No this was 'conquest'. smiling

Yes I realise that this was Conquest doh

You said it was on Gulf of Oman, was it just you against one other? Was he the only one alive on his team?

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01.09.2017, 13:18 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts

5tarLine wrote:

was it just you against one other? Was he the only one alive on his team?

Yes.

01.09.2017, 19:09 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Then in this scenario AdminMap's fighting commander detection gets disabled automatically. If I am not mistaken it is embedded in the AdminMap software and this threshold can only be increased, not decreased or disabled.

If there is only 1 man in the whole faction, the fighting commander check (I suppose only for that faction) is disabled.

Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

EDIT: Warnings should be turned on now, kudos David. =D

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02.09.2017, 12:28 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts
But he got kicked for something - and i didn't see warnings.
I upload 2 screenshots in discord.

cheers

02.09.2017, 17:49 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
The warnings should be back now, let me know.

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02.09.2017, 18:19 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
everything seems to be working fine in sf.
good job and thanks.

05.09.2017, 20:44 - Dillmann - Administrator - 714 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Then in this scenario AdminMap's fighting commander detection gets disabled automatically. If I am not mistaken it is embedded in the AdminMap software and this threshold can only be increased, not decreased or disabled.

If there is only 1 man in the whole faction, the fighting commander check (I suppose only for that faction) is disabled.

Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

EDIT: Warnings should be turned on now, kudos David. =D

Did just play on the 'Gulf of Oman'-server. Conquest, just me and him/her.
Warnings and kick for fighting commander are in in that scenario.

09.09.2017, 15:40 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
levi and perch are back in the rotation and maps are 32 size.

10.09.2017, 12:32 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Hello everyone,

thank you dsghsdf and Princess_Unicorn for letting me know. After the restore of our services I have re-read this thread and I have edited / corrected some settings. Here is a summary of what I have changed:

- map sizes: 32 -> 64 (don't know why it reverted to 32 :o ),
- minimum players for voting: 4 -> 3 (edited scrolling message too, @ 5tarLine ),
- map rotation: removed Devils Perch and Leviathan as requested by many,

OLD ROTATION:	CURRENT ROTATION:
• Devils Perch	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator	• Night Flight
• Leviathan	• Iron Gator
• Mass Destruction	• Mass Destruction
• Night Flight	• Surge
• Surge
• Warlord

- global unlocks: disabled (everyone can use all unlocks),
- safe zones: reduced Ghost Town north and south safe zones:

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Most of these changes should go live right now; the unlocks will be available after the next server reboot (or at least I hope so, I hope I am doing it right because I didn't find how to unlock guns for all :o ).

Please let me know how the orange safe zone for Surge should be edited, because it's a little bit more tricky than Ghost Town: https://i.imgur.com/10Idsr2.png. I think that if we make it so that it is allowed to pass through the area in the top-left corner, then the safe zone will become too little.

In other words, if I can correctly see the road that you are saying people usually use, the problem is that said road is too close to the uncappable base area. unhappy

Please let me know. I also would appreciate some feedback from our most hardcore LS Members that like Special Forces very much.

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10.09.2017, 14:40 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Thanks

S_h_a_r_k_93 smiling

for your work!

We will report if something does not work

10.09.2017, 18:21 - McSlaine - Corporal - 326 Posts
I dont play much special forces but Devils Perch was my favorite map :-(
You have to fight head on and the noobs cant run round to the back of the map and take flags.

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10.09.2017, 19:28 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
lol the most people hate Devils Perch....you are the first men how like it amused

10.09.2017, 20:04 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Sorry to hear that McSlaine, but from what I have gathered so far, for each person that likes Devils Perch there are at least other 4 that do not like it. :'D Personally there isn't any Special Forces map that I truly dislike, I didn't dislike Devils Perch either. Let's see how these changes impact the server.

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EDIT: Correct me if I'm wrong but today the server looks like it's going well since 14 UTC non-stop, with an average of 14 players more or less! smiling

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10.09.2017, 20:50 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Yeah, ran very well. up to 23 players today on SF

10.09.2017, 23:08 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Thanks to dsghsdf and Princess_Unicorn we have tested and edited the safe zones to tweak them further and make sure the players can travel through the flags without getting a warning. They will still be warned if their intention is to go into the safe zones marked in orange and red.

GHOST TOWN:

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SURGE:

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Unfortunately the change about the unlocks has not yet gone live because the server needs a reboot but today it was active for the whole afternoon and it is still going! =D As 5tarLine pointed out the unlocks were already discussed here: https://www.lost-soldi...forum_topic&topic=580.

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11.09.2017, 14:54 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
thanks shark, zones look good. less confusion on the server.
and the unlocks are great too, gj guys.

shark wrote:

the server looks like it's going well...average of 14 players more or less

and it mostly depends on wich server the first guys join, the rest follows.
ranked or not doesnt make a difference, yet.

can i suggest to make the fighting commander kick last for the rest of the round?
most get kicked, rejoin and go fighting commander again. some get 2 or 3 kicks in one round.
makes autoadmin look useless.
or any news on the commander/playercount restriction?

thanks for your server and your work.

11.09.2017, 15:41 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

the unlocks are great too, gj guys.

Have you tested with a brand new account with no Weapons unlocked and in that case can you confirm that all Weapons were unlocked/usable?

can i suggest to make the fighting commander kick last for the rest of the round?
most get kicked, rejoin and go fighting commander again. some get 2 or 3 kicks in one round.
makes autoadmin look useless.

Due to BF2CC being shit software and due to our Custom Automated Cross-Server Instant Ban Synchronisation System normal BF2 Temporary Bans which are processed through BF2CC are not possible as they damage the contents of the mm_bans.xml & banlist.con files. I have long-term plans to develop a new Temporary Ban System that will maintain the bans in a separate list within our AutoAdmin Software and simply keep kicking players who are temporarily banned when they re-connect to a Server until the time is up. I don't have time to start working on this right now and I'm not going to promise it will ever happen, we will see if it's actually worth doing this in the future when & if our Servers recover from being de-ranked when we finally leave Battlelog.

I think it "makes autoadmin look useless" is the wrong choice of words and a little harsh though considering virtually no one else has functioning AutoAdmin and being kicked from the game for breaking rules is not exactly 'useless'.

dsghsdf wrote:

or any news on the commander/playercount restriction?

As above, I'm not aware of any drag & drop script we could use for this. We would have to write it ourselves, it shouldn't be as difficult as the Temporary Bans but it's no 5 minute job and we have to balance the time it takes to code and test this with its worth. So no news I'm afraid.

dsghsdf wrote:

thanks for your server and your work.

Thanks for supporting / playing on our Servers and for your feedback.

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11.09.2017, 16:32 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
i did test it just now.
i used some old lowrank account with 1 or 2 weapons unlocked already, those worked, all other weapons/classes had no unlocks available.
the server is running since 40rounds too, so no restart yet.

i never worked with bf2cc or bf2servers in depth, just basic ingame commands.
all i knew about servers is bf42 stuff, no autoadmin, no php, no complex code,no dbs,no own ranking..
just custom servermessages/commands, mapcycles, settings and few bf42 tricks.

T-Gamers has commander limitation and i heard you/shark are in contact with tema56something.
i send shark few old links about it but i dont know if its any use to you.

sorry for being impatient and the autoadmin usless part was wrong choice of words, my english is limited.
but in the end it doesnt do much then just show warnings that everybody can read and remove the offender for 30-60 secs from the game.
he rejoins and continues until the next 30sec kick. he keeps score and everything.
but yes, "useless" autoadmin is better then no autoadmin/no rules server, thats why i play here smiling

thx

11.09.2017, 20:08 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Thank you very much for your valuable feedback as always, dsghsdf. About the unlocks ... as I said I didn't quite apply the change I was going to try. :'D ... So ... I don't know what happened with the unlocks actually. :'D

About that feature of AdminMap keeping in its memory that it kicked a certain player and should act accordingly on said player's rejoin event, it has already been pointed out before and as 5tarLine said we were thinking of making this new feature ourselves with some help, but it's not at the top of the todo list I'm afraid.

And finally about the commander/playernumber restriction there are no updates at the moment.
I will inform you if there are any.

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EDIT: I have just joined the servers and we're still observing the earned unlocks; as I said the change I've made is not yet applied, nor I am sure it will have the desired effect. unhappy

14.09.2017, 19:36 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okay so I have tried to uncheck the Global Unlocks setting in BF2CC but even so we're still observing the battlelog.co earned unlocks; I am not sure if that setting was actually applied but eventually I don't think it's going to do the trick. We will have to investigate further.

Meanwhile I managed to talk to Tema567 and he shared the script about restricting the commander usage with us; so I wanted to discuss with everyone and with dsghsdf what would the best threshold number be.

With the Staff Officers we thought 11 could be a nice value: the script makes the commander resign if a person tries to apply to commander when there are ≤ X players. So with 11 players in the server, if dsghsdf applied for commander he would then automatically resign.

In the event a 12th player would join the server, the script would not kick in anymore so you could have a battle between a 5-man squad + 1 commander vs 6 soldiers or vs 5 soldiers + 1 commander (in other words the script does not make you resign anymore if there's a 6 vs 6 going on in the server).

If the player number would drop back to 11, the script would activate itself again and there couldn't be any commanders anymore. Most likely the current commander (if any) would be picked up by the script and it would be automatically forced to resign.

Let me know if 11 sounds great to you guys as a possible threshold number. If possible, and I think 5tarLine would agree, if we are to install this script on all the servers I'd stay consistent with the threshold.

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15.09.2017, 11:46 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
That sounds great.

In the past it was sometimes really annoying when the people commander even though only 4 people were on the server.

16.09.2017, 16:55 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
make it 65.
no, i dont know the threshold, maybe 12 or 16 for sf.
its trial and error. see how things work.
if 16 is set and playernumbers are stable around 16 too, then i would raise threshold and see if playernumbers raise too.

right now the autobalance seems to be off or something.
3 people in 1 team finished the round without enemy, next round they were together in same team without enemy.
and mapvote/mutiny/kickvote didnt work with 12 people playing.

16.09.2017, 18:21 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

and mapvote/mutiny/kickvote didnt work with 12 people playing.

Do you mean you didn't collect enough 'yes' votes,
or that the vote wouldn't start with 12 players in the server??

Regarding the script we are still testing and tweaking it on the Wake Island server. I think we will start with a value of 11 and see how it goes; if needed it will be raised for Special Forces but I don't want to disable the commander entirely as it's part of the game at the end of the day. I just want to avoid those situations where it's abused when there are little to no players in the server.

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EDIT: Yeah there was a problem with the profiles in BF2CC, it should be back to what's stated here. wink

16.09.2017, 19:11 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts

Do you mean you didn't collect enough 'yes' votes,
or that the vote wouldn't start with 12 players in the server??

the second. it did not even begin. It say´s we are not enough player but we are 12

18.09.2017, 12:12 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
what she says.
we couldnt start the vote becuase 12players was not enough to start votes.
but i think its fixed now.

there was/is another problem with autobalance i think.
yesterday f.e. almost everybody was in 1 team after mapchange. i tried to switch but could not, the button basicly didnt work. i had to leave server and rejoin to switch teams.
dont know whats causing it.

https://images.imgbox.com/44/97/XkhKqTX6_o.jpg

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the 2 guys with -2 switched teams, but we couldnt switch back to make teams even.
we had to discon and rejoin to fix it.

18.09.2017, 20:23 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

but i think its fixed now.

Yeah I edited my reply above like, 2 days ago. Laugh

(before Becky posted hers :3 ).

About the autobalance, unfortunately it seems that at some random times it fails hugely to kick in and it will balance the Teams after many, many minutes. It doesn't happen on the SF Server only, I've seen it happen on other servers of ours too. unhappy

Sadly I don't think there's a way around it other than trying to reboot the server or try to disable and re-enable the autobalance. Don't know if a reboot is required to apply that change tho. :'(

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01.11.2017, 13:10 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okay so we were discussing about the baserape events happening on some of the maps, in particular on Ghost Town. I have collected in this gallery the pictures of the AdminMap Zones for each of the current 6 maps we have in the rotation: https://www.lost-soldi...=gallery&galleryID=31.

Please revise them and give me a detailed feedback on which changes you would apply to the zones marked in Red, which are the "No Kill" zones where a warning for baserape will be issued. The orange zones are the "No Go" zones, where only Special Ops won't get warned when entering said zones.

Oh and about the Commander Script, thanks to 5tarLine I managed to apply it on the Special Forces server and set it to deactivate when the 14th player joins. In other words there will not be a commander if there are less than 14 peeps in the server.

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01.11.2017, 14:14 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Oh and about the Commander Script, thanks to 5tarLine I managed to apply it on the Special Forces server and set it to deactivate when the 14th player joins. In other words there will not be a commander if there are less than 14 peeps in the server.

and its working. awesome, thank you.

i will check the killzones and send back some pics.

01.11.2017, 14:40 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Yes please for the discussion let's use this board. You are welcome.

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01.11.2017, 16:09 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Thanks for the pics

S_h_a_r_k_93 smiling

wow, the base in Ghost Town is very small...When I stay on the Igla or the Tow and the Heli kill me then it is not baserape unhappy

grrr then we have no chance to defend us.

and yeah thanks for the commander script 5tarLine smiling

super!

01.11.2017, 18:20 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
some mainbases are protectet by circle others by square, i guess you can change it?
i changed some.
http://imgbox.com/g/bW98bWyeUE
GhostTown: pink box/circle = no kill. you could make the orange box smaller. like pink in RU mbase and circle SAS mbase.
Iron Gator: pink = no kill and no go (on ground)
MassDestruction: pink = no kill, and no go? top left corner is arty2
Night Flight: pink = no kill. no-go looks good.
Surge: pink = no kill. or make it like orange box, maybe less on the right side.
Warlord: small yellow = no kill, big yellow = no go.

no?

02.11.2017, 23:19 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Okay I have edited the zones as follows (refer to V2 pics):
https://www.lost-soldi...org/gallery/galleryID-31/

Let me know if you would apply some more changes to said red zones. I have edited the scrolling messages with the No Baserape rule, please bear during the first weeks because not all the players may pick up the change in just a matter of ... 50 tickets. tongue

(so don't report them, at least not the persistent ones. Please for the first 2 weeks state that a no-baserape rule has been added, and to check the official thread in the Forum - the rules one - if they want to get more details).

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03.11.2017, 10:47 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

a no-baserape rule has been added

that rule was there all the time. autoadmin always warned and kicked for baserape, just on some maps the zone was to small.
thanks guys!

03.11.2017, 12:29 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
Its perfect wink

Thank you, Shark

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03.11.2017, 17:40 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

that rule was there all the time. autoadmin always warned and kicked for baserape, just on some maps the zone was to small. thanks guys!

Ah, well yeah there sure were the no-kill zones before; but it wasn't stated nor in the official thread nor in the scrolling messages that there was a "no baserape" rule in place. Sometimes that helps to you know? tongue

One diligent soldier could learn the rule from the message instead of ... you know ... attempting to baserape. Laugh

Anyways you are welcome and Princess_Unicorn, tha'ts going to be my next wallpaper on the phone for sure!! ahahah Thank you both for helping me test the zones.

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21.01.2018, 20:45 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
The SF Server was going so well and you put a lot of effort into tweak things and improve it, why so quiet lately? Any ideas to get it going again?

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21.01.2018, 21:16 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

5tarLine wrote:

[...] why so quiet lately?

I got word that dsghsdf has a cold. :'(

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21.01.2018, 21:18 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

I got word that dsghsdf has a cold. :'(

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Funny you mention that, i was going to say it seems dsghsdf has been AFK lately but didn't want to blame him. Laugh

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22.01.2018, 10:20 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
dsghsdf and I had tried again in the last 3 weeks sf to fill but it is getting harder. some disconnected after being killed twice or are now banished like piligrim and eft. I brought in friends like Messerjockel, Phoenixpredator and Viper but even then it did not fill up anymore. It came maybe 3 people more

22.01.2018, 20:10 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

why so quiet lately? Any ideas to get it going again?

BL died and hub has more bots than players.
LS members and friends need to join and play maybe others will join too.

22.01.2018, 20:20 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I like the GIF, very explicative. amused

ahah

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22.01.2018, 21:32 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
We try to fill the SF Server today but it was the first time... absolutly nobody join unhappy

22.01.2018, 23:11 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Yep we have to coordinate our activity. You know our whole SW clan is willing to support our sf server because we like it very much. Unfortunately we can only play on weekends right now. But since most players are active on weekends, i suggest we are going to try it then. With messerjockl, predator, viper, dsghsdf, princess and Dark, Destroyer and me se should have enough people to get the server started.

23.01.2018, 18:21 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I appreciate your response guys. smiling

Unluckily I am moving house these days so I don't think I'll have internet set up by this weekend, if y'all want to try it then; but kudos for your resolution. Best of luck!

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25.01.2018, 18:54 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

i thought about the same thing yesterday smiling
put Levi and Devils back into rotation and see what happens, maybe somebody on Hub would like to play those maps, maybe for short time only.
the playernumbers cant get worse and i think the other sf servers dont have those maps in rotation neither (for a reason i guess).
maybe the names attract people, maybe not.
i wouldnt mind.

and i would say devils after iron and levi after surge, no?

McSlaine wrote:

Devils Perch was my favorite map

one more player for sf now, yes?

26.01.2018, 12:13 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
So, you would like it like this right? Please confirm.
I hope C0RL3ONE is reading us right here, I am waiting for his precious feedback as well!

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Night Flight	• Night Flight
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Mass Destruction	• Devils Perch
• Surge	• Mass Destruction
	• Surge
	• Leviathan

28.01.2018, 03:37 - StarLine - Administrator - 2085 Posts
@

S_h_a_r_k_93 -> Map List got destroyed after a Server Reboot. I've put the 'New Rotation' in place, obviously if you want to change it, have at it mate! smile

- Also finally disabled Voting on all Servers.

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28.01.2018, 18:28 - C0RL3ONE - Leading Aircraftman - 4 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

So, you would like it like this right? Please confirm.
I hope C0RL3ONE is reading us right here, I am waiting for his precious feedback as well!

CURRENT ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Night Flight	• Night Flight
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Mass Destruction	• Devils Perch
• Surge	• Mass Destruction
	• Surge
	• Leviathan

Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

Particularly, I haven't any problem with the SF maps smiling

I like Devil's Perch, but if the people don't like it, so I'll understand.

Yesterday, there was a game with few people. I couldn't stay online for a long time unhappy

28.01.2018, 19:58 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Yes we are trying to get Special Forces running this weekend because it's a pity to see it without players. For the moment I would leave the current "new" map rotation, as dsghsdf said we can test it and see if there are any complaints?

Thank you,

03.04.2018, 00:55 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
I suggest to change the map rotation to this:

1) Warlord
2) Iron Gator
3) Ghost town

Those are the most popular maps in the rotation

03.04.2018, 18:27 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Although I feel like three maps are too few for a rotation server - in my humble opinion - I cannot find a fourth map that would fit in great with those three maps ... referring to their popularity and gameplay. So yeah, let's give the map rotation a spin and see if it helps to boost the server!!

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Iron Gator
• Night Flight	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator
• Devils Perch	(Map size is meant for 64 players)
• Mass Destruction
• Surge
• Leviathan

Thank you for your precious suggestions, as always. Any reader wishing to discuss this change in the map rotation, feel free to add new replies, leaving your feedback, and we can start discussing about it together.

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22.09.2018, 17:13 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
first: thanks to all who joined SF today. It was a lot of fun with good balanced teams!

@shark the maps were (the last post show it was you crazy

) reduced to the 3 most popular because since Hub SF players have decreased. to attract they with the most popular maps. you are welcome to visit SF more often and I do not have a problem to bringing more maps into rotation back

22.09.2018, 19:34 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Bloody hell, you're right! I cannot believe it was me indeed! Laugh

Problem is, at least that's how I felt it, that I got really disappointed when Iron Gator loaded up just after two rounds ... so much so that I wanted to change the map myself!

What I mean is, ok, maybe those are the most popular maps according to you guys (how can Iron Gator be one of those is out of my grasp though :'D), but doesn't it get repeating to be playing on the same 3 damn maps over and over again?

There's tons of other great Special Forces maps. Hell, they're actually all great except one or two maybe ... No? Let me know, in my opinion it gets boring real quick. Although ... the three rounds we had today lasted quite long.

Regards,
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22.09.2018, 20:26 - Princess_Unicorn - Sergeant - 454 Posts
So I like Iron Gator. But I also had a good teacher with Dsghsdf. If you know finally the floors it's a great map crazy

but yes ... I missed Surge and Mass Destruction. Normally, the last time SF did not go so well. Mostly people go after 1 or 2 rounds. You are welcome to add maps again.

Special wishes / suggestions of other players?

23.09.2018, 00:12 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Mass destruction and surge are fine for me, those are the next popular maps i would say and really fun to play

23.09.2018, 09:28 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

shark wrote:

I got really disappointed when Iron Gator loaded up

and thats why you need to play Special Forces more often smiling

Its good Map once you learn how to. Need a guide? Call me, now! For Free!

3 popular maps

They are but that didnt help the last Month.

Mass destruction and Surge

+ Night Flight, than there is atleast one Night Map for Devang. Its not big and almost inf only, just Cars, Bikes and 1 Apc.
The 2 other Nightmaps are good too but rather big and often killed Server back in the Day.
But now.. "You Can't Kill What's Already Dead"..

Imo you could add all Maps to Rotation, in the End its not the Maps but the Players that make the Game good or bad.
If you Guys(Admins) play SF than you can skip or change Maps to your liking, if others start playing SF than you could still change the Mapcycle back to something "better".

23.09.2018, 10:37 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
True words, but I want to mention that the real issue we had the last month, was not our map selection in the rotation, but that every soldier who connected to our server was being kicked every round. Thats why our server was dead a long time. We solved that issue last week, and now we can play properly. Yeah, I would agree and go for all maps except Devils perch, that map really sux imo.

23.09.2018, 12:53 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Yes, as Carbon says our dear friend 5tarLine has performed some changes to the Special Forces server that should lessen the amount of times that players get disconnected after a map-change event. Having said so, and having discussed with dsghsdf and the others about it, I am reverting the rotation to this old one:

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Iron Gator	• Ghost Town
• Ghost Town	• Night Flight
	• Iron Gator
	• Mass Destruction
	• Surge

Let me know if you would like to modify the order of the maps, or if you would like to add more maps (in different sizes too, maybe ...). The current maps in the rotation are all in 64 players size.

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01.12.2018, 21:52 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Just had an idea (hopefully good :'D). What about a Discord Role specifically designed to rally Special Forces users to the server? Like an IRC thingy, I think that's how they used to be called.

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09.12.2018, 11:51 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
best idea! it works and gets people on the server.
come LS gang, join too.

09.12.2018, 13:30 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

dsghsdf wrote:

Come LS gang, join too.

That'd be really dope, to get matches going with the Team. smile

Unfortunately some cannot join during these weeks, but if any other would like to give SF a try, it gets as easy as downloading a .rar archive and unpacking it in the mods folder. smile

Thanks a lot for the feedback! Regards,
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22.12.2018, 18:09 - Riddick_2K - - 2 Posts
Meanwhile, a greeting to the whole forum / clan
I registered to write in this post.
I played at BF2 since 2009 (DVD with all the expansions) and I played for years (with other nik, of course) and with my Niks / Accout I have more than 2200 hours of play, especially on ^Special Forces^, my preferred. Only on ^Warlord^ I have more than 800 hours (I spent entire weekends smiling

)
But my favorite were the night maps, if I had found a server 24/7 I would have spent the weekend.
Now, after the mess with the ^private^ who have tried to keep the game, this is practically dead ... and I found myself at least decent alternatives. But I have always kept an eye on BF2, especially on the ^SF^.
Vanilla stewed me, except for some rare maps and I would not return except for ^Great Wall Infantry 24/7^ (there was a server once) also ^Songhua Stalemate^, or ^Operation Blue Pearl^ were cute ... or ^Zatar Wetlands^ e ^Operation Harvest^, also ... but I rarely see them, and I get tired of the usual 4 maps, played to the point of nausea that I do not like very much just to hope to play a nice map.
SF, though ... is another matter
And now I get to the point.
Why did you remove the 2 most beautiful maps?
^Devil's Perch^ is my favorite, I would have played it continuously. And ^Leviathan^ is a great map.
Personally, if I had to make a ranking, it would be as follows.
1st (the most beautiful)
^Devil's Perch^
^Leviathan^
^Night Flight^
^Warlord^ (above all infantry)
2nd (good)
^Ghost Town^ (even if it gave me a little stew)
^Iron Gator^ (even if difficult because unbalanced)
3rd (boring)
^Mass Destruction^
^Surge^
I would like to return to play these maps, but I would like to see them all ... not just some ... much less if my favorites are missing.
And in any case, only and exclusively those complete (64 players), even if not necessarily with 64 seats to occupy. But the ^reduced^ maps do not even take them into consideration, I do not even lose time to enter.
And, generally, I'm always just looking for ^No Rules^ servers... I would like to play ALL this game, with no restrictions on weapons, tactics and strategies ... which, generally, are just the whim of players who are not looking for a real war game, but a sort of ^Medieval Joust^ or ^Circus of Gunslingers^, something that Battlefield should NOT be ... but on this, if I'm not exaggerated, I can sustain some limitations.
For the rest (maps e size) I do not even lose time to enter.
Obviously this is just MY point of view ... the server is yours and the choices are yours, but since this thread is talking about ... hoping at least in a recovery of all the maps, I wanted to express the my point of view.
Otherwise, it's time, it's the real time I uninstall BF2 and I forget it.
Too bad ... I saw your server populated and I looked for the clan / forum ... and I was very sorry to read that I'm not rotating the maps that I prefer the most.

If I can bear to play in some boring maps to wait to play in those favorites ... since now the players are few ... I do not see why others can not do the same.

Greetings

Riddick_2K (ex ^ColGBM^ e ^The_Partizan^ amused

)

P.S.
Sorry for my bad english, but I must use Google

23.12.2018, 09:05 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Hello Riddick,

thank you very, very much for enlisting to write this feedback post! We really appreciate your observations and, boy, I always welcome a fellow countrymen (

) in our Community! wink

(by the way, we are a community, not a clan; there's a difference)

So, where do we start from here ... if you go back some pages, you will realize that over the years we have changed the rotation quite a bit, based on the users' feedback. Your two favorites were originally part of our full rotation, but we had to remove them because as much as there are Devils / Leviathan lovers, there are many haters too ... too many, in fact.

We had to balance it out: people would leave when these map were being loaded, and the server would get "killed" (emptied). We have map-vote enabled, but players simply left upon loading the map or shy of some minutes after being spawned.

I like those maps too and accept their challenges, and so do you and some of our Members, but for the most part of our - small - SF playerbase, I am sorry to say that these two maps are generally "frowned upon". unhappy

(we do have Night Flight in the current rotation though, and we plan to keep it. Out of the three night maps, this felt as the most suitable one to leave in the rotation)

Right now I am personally taking care of our Special Forces server and making it the one and only server where there's actually a great chance to have a fun time during the evenings (EU). We are getting a nice group pf regular players to join and our current record stands at 14 active human players in the same match! Please refer to the Discord invitation link in my Forum signature below my post, as we use it to rally ourselves on the server at the same time and build up a nice match / have fun together.

For the reasons above I humbly beg you to stick with us - Lost-Soldiers - who knows if these two maps of yours may make a comeback in the future!! wink

(if there's support to your demand from the rest of our Community)

Small digression about the Infantry and Vehicle Rotation Servers.
[toggle=Read more]Speaking about map favorites, Songhua Stalemate and Zatar Wetlands are amongst mine too, as well as FuShe Pass and Highway Tampa (great Tank battles there!).

We have all of those maps in our Vehicle Server's rotation! Operation Harvest, Kubra Dam, Operation Road Rage (I really like this one too), Operation Smoke Screen, Taraba Quarry ... we have all of them. In our Infantry Rotation server we feature Great Wall too, as well as Songhua Stalemate (great sniper battles here).

Personally I just tried to get the Infantry Rotation server going the other day, had 4 players in total - incl. me - but as soon as Great Wall loaded, they all disappeared. unhappy

I suspect because they did not have the map files (as the map is part of the Euro Forces booster pack).

If you have feedback regarding these two servers, please visit each board here. You will find the most suitable threads inside: for Infantry use Proposal to change the settings of the Infantry Server (2), for Vehicle use Map Rotation.[/toggle]

Regarding your feedback about the rules, well, the only non-written rule which I am working onto right now is simply a limitation of the claymores in the flag radius (just for the Special Forces server). All the rest of the weapons are allowed, and our rules for the SF server - which you can read in each board - are pretty much no baserape and no fighting commander (not a problem usually because we have a commander-limiter script in place, to unlock commander only with 24 players or more). So I don't understand your statements about a no-rules server. wink

Finally, regarding your last statement: "If I can bear to play in some boring maps to wait to play in those favorites ... since now the players are few ... I do not see why others can not do the same." Well, especially because of that, and because it is so hard to get new people on Special Forces and because I am working hard to get the server back on track, we cannot risk to waste these efforts of mine by giving in on the request of only one user. This is when the Community should kick in and back up or counter your statements (this is the point of this thread), so expect a couple of replies in the next week. smile

Once again thank you very much for writing your post (let's keep them shorter though because not everybody likes to read all this stuff that I wrote smile

) and I invite you to join our Discord (link in signature) to get notified of when we have a Special Forces match going on. wink

Kind regards,

Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

P.S. By the way ... The_Partizan ... Battlefield Play4Free Veteran? smile

25.12.2018, 16:57 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
i would play all maps. maybe add a poll for favorite maps?

26.12.2018, 01:07 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
As I said I would play the missing maps too, but for the moment I don't think it's yet the time for Leviathan or Devils Perch to be added to the rotation. We can have a poll in the future, yes; just like we did for the Infantry Rotation Server.

About that, I hereby inform you that after having played quite some matches in the Special Forces Server, I noticed that Night Flight's position in the current rotation wasn't helping at all ... as I said that's the only night map we are currently running, but after spending many days on the server it felt to me as it was still kind of a server killer.

Therefore we are now testing this new rotation, please give it some time to be learnt and played! In the mean time, you can give me feedback about how the (now old) rotation was ... if you felt some changes were needed, or if you agree about Night Flight's repositioning (because you noticed an abnormal number of disconnects when that map was loaded, in the middle of the old rotation).

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Night Flight	• Iron Gator
• Iron Gator	• Surge
• Mass Destruction	• Warlord
• Surge	• Ghost Town
	• Mass Destruction
	• Night Flight

In any way, thank you very much for supporting the server in these past weeks and for sticking in!
We love you guys. smiling

Regards,
Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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26.12.2018, 09:28 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
I really enjoy the SF server, but I think we should give at least Leviathan a try. I like the map more than night flight, and it would create some more diversion. Moreover I would like to see Iron Gator a second time in rotation, since that map is definitely the second best after Warlord. So I suggest a new rotation:

Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Surge
Night Flight
Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Mass destruction
Leviathan

26.12.2018, 16:18 - Imperial_Toaster - Junior Technician - 106 Posts
More maps more fun. I have no idea what the maps are called, but a couple of fresh maps in the rotation could be interesting.

26.12.2018, 16:32 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
Leviathan and Devils Perch are missing right now.
many people disconnected in the past when they came up.
is it possible to enable them manualy on the server? set them as next map if they are not in active rotation?

i would say iron gator was/is 3rd most popular map in sf. the last server were ghost/warlord only.
iron can be a killer too if mecs cant get off the island but that didnt happen in the past on LS.
add it a 2nd time, i wouldnt mind.

26.12.2018, 17:38 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
@SW03_Carbon I will store your suggestion safely. As previously stated, let's try and build a constant playerbase first; it's been less than a month since we started looking deeply into the Special Forces server and paying close attention to it.

In these weeks we have tested the old rotation deeply and came out with a new one, which we shall test for some weeks again too. After that, in the new year, we may do a poll about favorite maps or about inserting the missing maps in the rotation, and decide what to do based on the result and general state of the xpack mod / server.

@Imperial_Toaster as dsghsdf says, unfortunately the missing maps are night maps and they are not enjoyed by everyone. New players frown upon them very much, apparently. It is already a bit difficult to retain new players on Night Flight, mainly because they are totally unaware about number '7' being the key binded to night vision goggles!

We try to help the people that stay in the server, by telling it to them, and usually the result is good and they stay.

@dsghsdf No unfortunately what you suggest is not possible with Battlefield 2 (or rather, with BF2CC), as far as I know. An admin would be needed to be constantly in-game to monitor the situation and skip those maps if it's not a good time to play them. About setting them as 'next map' no, you can only set maps that are in the current rotation, or change to a map that is in the current rotation.

Noted on the Iron Gator feedback, thanks. We'll see if it is possible to add it sooner than the other maps we are discussing it. If anybody wishes to give further feedback regarding Iron Gator, you are welcome. Mainly we are trying to discuss Leviathan and Devils Perch right now.

Kind regards,
Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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12.01.2019, 10:12 - Rico946 - Administrator - 170 Posts
Leviathan is the worst SF map, most ppl dont like it.

Surge is my fav map btw.

12.01.2019, 13:13 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Rico946 wrote

Lets Remove Devils Perch and Leviathan.

We are discussing exactly that! (adding the 2 missing night maps).

Also, somebody asked me on Discord if we could lower the match time from 60 minutes to something like 45-50 minutes. What do you think?

Regards,
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12.01.2019, 13:37 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
weekends are going well, maybe add devils and levi for one weekend and see what happens?
maybe wait for more players and try it later? if its not working out you take them out again and restart server.

no please dont change the timer. if the rounds take time then its good fight with lots of flagchange and battle.
it sux to lose a round because time runs out and tickets are 50:100 but you are about to win and bleed the 100enemy tickets.

12.01.2019, 13:51 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
That is correct, I always pay attention to the ticket bleed, it can get crucial to win the match at times. Well, as I said the discussion must be held on the Forum, with everybody. So if this person is not going to bother to come here and discuss it with all of us (telling us why 45 minutes would work better than 60 minutes for everyone, not just for him/her), then we are not going to bother about discussing it.

For the people who are reading from this page, we are discussing whether to add or not the missing 2 night maps: Leviathan and Devil's Perch; and also if Iron Gator deserves to occur two times in the rotation or not (current rotation here, we also discussed Iron Gator on the prev. page too).

Kind regards and thank you very much for the feedback!
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13.01.2019, 19:19 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
So i personally like Leviathan, and I know from others that they like it too and would like to play it. Its never worse than night flight at all. Definitely put Iron Gotor in a second time, I cant see a reason why we should play Ghost town twice but Iron Gator only once.

19.01.2019, 16:53 - Imperial_Toaster - Junior Technician - 106 Posts
Yeah, lets try playing leviathan please.

19.01.2019, 17:07 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

carbon wrote:

I cant see a reason why we should play Ghost town twice

because warlord and ghost town are most popular maps in sf. the last active servers were ghost and/or warlord only servers.

carbon wrote:

Its never worse than night flight at all

night flight is simple map with 5 flags, no tanks(except weak apc), no helis just cars and inf.
leviathan has everything and its easy to lock down mec in mainbase if US has players that know how to use tank and heli. Mecs start with transporst heli, mobile aa and apc only. US has everything. levi has 8 flags.

but ok, maybe change night flight with levi.

20.01.2019, 01:00 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
I mean, we could do a 32 player size levi map, that was my initial suggestion to Shark. Ghost town has everything too and can be very annoying as well if you have a weak team against a strong one.
Iron gator is at least same popular as Ghost Town, most players like the map.
And I wouldnt exchange Levi with Night flight, but simply add it. The new rotation i would suggest is:

Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Mass destruction
Night flight
Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Surge
Leviathan

20.01.2019, 10:20 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

carbon wrote:

Ghost town has everything too and can be very annoying as well if you have a weak team against a strong one.

yea but ghost is not a nightmap that makes people leave. please dont skip it next time, ty.

Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Mass destruction
Night flight
Warlord
Ghost town
Iron Gator
Surge
Leviathan

ok

how about raising the commander/player threshold or you guys like playing with commander in 7vs7?

20.01.2019, 10:32 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
I got asked to play iron gator thats why i switched. And after iron i tried to switch back, but that wasnt possible because ghost is in rotation twice and there was an error because of that, im sorry

Regarding commander i would agree, what is your treshold suggestion?

20.01.2019, 13:40 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Right now it's set to 24 so yeah, 7 VS 7 (ideally one full squad plus the commander). It's pretty standard on all our 64-size servers - so not the Infantry server - albeit on Special Forces there's a player cap of 48 last time I checked.

The proposed map rotation seems good. We may try it very soon; although Iron Gator sometimes is a good one, other times it makes people leave (more rarely ... it depends on who is playing I guess).

Regards,
Staff Officer

20.01.2019, 16:37 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts

what is your treshold suggestion?

player cap of 48

hmm, set threshold to 49?
:-/

20.01.2019, 16:41 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
Its fine for me, i prefer games without commander

20.01.2019, 16:44 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I confirm the player limit is set to 48 players total (so 38 without counting the bots). Not sure why it was set that way, I assume it may have to do with the old rotation? I believe we were running smaller maps (32 size I think). Anyways, so dsghsdf is saying he would disable commander entirely. Laugh

I am afraid that is not possible. But seriously, when do we see commanding on the server? Usually only during weekends when we pass the threshold. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't recall people successfully applying for commander during the week ... yet.

Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

EDIT: Carbon so you mean you wouldn't change the current threshold for commander (i.e. 24 players; 10 bots + 14 humans). I think it works ok for the moment.

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20.01.2019, 23:03 - Imperial_Toaster - Junior Technician - 106 Posts
+1 for current cmdr threshold, works fine imo

22.01.2019, 02:22 - Riddick_2K - - 2 Posts
Hello and thank you for your appreciation and welcome.

In reply to

S_h_a_r_k_93 but speech valid for everyone

Regarding the maps I had read all the pages, but few complained about the night maps ... it does not seem to me more than those that required them. I should reread everything again to mention the names.
As for the server, I do not discuss that since I do not follow the story.
But if you go behind those who enter and those who go out risk of becoming crazy, because you'll never know what goes through the head to all the random players that run for the web.
Especially now that Gamespy no longer exists and anyone can use this game practically for free.
However, if I can express a specific opinion ... from what I had already understood in the ^golden days^, many complain about the night vision that annoys the eyes.
Objectively, if you use the game ^as is^ he is almost all completely black and the night glasses are a bit ^uncomfortable^ in general, and could bother you in the long run.
There is the possibility to avoid too strong contrasts:
(I take it for granted that everyone already has ^DynamicLightingQuality^ and ^DynamicShadowsQuality^ at minimum or zero)
By changing the ^Range^ in the color settings of the video card (I use nvidia) you can make the difference between light and dark less extreme making everything more visible, playable and less annoying. I think many do not know this possibility, which is NOT a trick, since it goes to work only on the ^normal^ video card settings available to everyone.
I always use it @ 1.6 (even on the daily PC), and it's like that on the gaming PC, since the new BF are much more ^user friendly^ (arcade x casual player) and the night maps are not so ^nocturnal^, but very clearly visible (in fact there are no longer night vision glasses).
When I use BF2SF, to night maps, also increase the brightness and contrast of the monitor (consider that I still use my good and ^old^ CRT, so it is not a ^light beacon^ like the new LCD, but as video quality and speed and absence of ^Ghosting^ is unbeatable at the time), I modify the ^Range^ @ 1.8 or 2.0.
So the night maps become visible without particular annoyances and night glasses become really necessary on a few occasions ... becoming more playable and much less annoying.
You could do some publicity about it.
Even the ^Midnight Sun^ of the ^Armored Fury^ was not so ^black^, probably because in AF the use of night glasses was not foreseen. Changing the Gamma makes the night maps of the SF almost the same.
If the ^habitual^ players of 2009 (BF2 experts) were not all aware of this and complained about the ^nuisance^, think of the ^new^ random ^players^... all ^lost in the dark^, I think

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Maybe a warning at the entrance of the server, or in the sliding chat ^For night maps set the ^Range^ of video drivers @ 1.8 / 2.0^ and try to reset the cycle all night maps, maybe at the end.
I do not know what effect it could have with a new LCD monitor, though. Maybe 1.8 / 2.0 is a bit too much, you should try.
If it is not yet clear ... in the hope of being able to review all these night maps play ... I could do a short tutorial with screenshots of the setup windows and related changes to the game.
More than that, I do not know what to say.

Only a last clarification.
When I wrote that:
^If I can bear to play in some boring maps to wait to play in those favorites ... since now the players are few ... I do not see why others can not do the same.^
It did NOT want to be a criticism of you or the community ... but to players who leave the server if they can not play the map they like.
If everyone did that, they would play in a few.
I think you should leave all the maps, one after the other ... mixing well those most ^appreciated^ with those less (not to create groups of ^bother^ for anyone) ... and making note (maybe with writing in chat of the server), that what you like, may not like another ... if you want to have players on your favorite map you MUST agree to play the favorite one of someone else you do not like.
I see it that way.
I would gladly enter if I saw ALL the maps, I would end up playing those I do not like and then playing the ones I like best. If there are not those that I like, I will not even go there.
And I do not continue on the subject because I would risk offending someone.
I speak of the players who claim that everything and everyone is as they want (maps, rules, tactics, strategies, etc ...) I see too many in all the Battlefields.
But this is not the thread.

Regarding the rules.

I read them, but there is not only the limitation of claymore to the flag (try to favor the ^exchange of racing flags without fighting^?!?) ... You have a ^strange^ limitation of the ^base rape^.
Apart from being a game of war and not a ^Medieval Tournament^ there is also the base rape (even to me from bothering, but if you are closed in base means that the team is too poor ... avoid spawning and leaving finish the game already lost, rather it would be to implement a ^randomization^ of the players, because the game is still boring, even by winners). But blocking an entire area only on one side ... is discriminatory and generates ugly imbalances.
Either you boil on both sides or nothing is blocked.
And the problem of the assets of the commander aggravates even more the discrimination and the imbalance of the game.
If the SpecOps can destroy assets but NOT defend itself is grotesque! How many would be willing to commit suicide without even being able to defend themselves. So much it is forbidden to stop everything.
Even more serious is if this is NOT done with automatic script ... in this case the discrimination is even more annoying:
There will be the ^uncaring break rules^ that will destroy everything anyway (it always happened on the SUPER @ servers, where it was forbidden to use the C4 but was often used anyway ... and you go to call the admin ... that often if they rub or dry because they do not say they do not live to follow their servers ...

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) and the ^honest^ who will take it in the ass without being able to answer.
Then, these situations also generate other forms of discrimination: who is taken and sanctioned and who is not.
This is the worst situation:
Rules not enforced or enforced ^by chance^.
In my opinion, the first feature of a ^serious^ server is when it enforces ALWAYS and ALL rules!
If there is not the possibility to do it (people, means, resources, ^desire^ sometimes, etc ...) it is better NOT to put any rule ... at least it is clear to everyone and anyone can defend as best he believes .
it is much more civil, democratic and above all sporting = all equal.

Obviously this is just my point of view and in any case a general speech of what I saw in my years of playing BF in all the servers.

I do not know how the speech will evolve on your SF server. Now it is the only one that still interests me. For the ^basic^ version I have already seen that what remains of this game no longer interests me.
I kept BF2 also installed for the mod FH (WW2), but despite the versions remains just beautiful to see but I do not know why (and I wrote in their forum years ago), the movements of tanks and vehicles are ridiculous and annoying. I always hoped the correct and playable version would arrive, but I have not seen it yet.
Now many years have passed, and I have also become accustomed to the destructible environment ... already after BF3, return to BF2 and find a tank blocked by a simple and stupid railing ... and not be able to kill anyone if he hid behind at a window ... it seemed really very stupid.
And from the ^arcade drift^ of the Battlefield saga, I would try to change with ArmA3 (which gives me some problems, though) ... I hope it's not all that ^run, jump and shoot ... and cry^ that became BF.
From what I saw and read in this forum, I think that soon I will make the ^definitive leap^ and uninstall BF2 and BF3 (now I only liked ^Scavenger^, but it does not play almost anyone anymore).
It is probably the end now ^obvious^ for the SF: rare players and all only on ^Ghost Town^ and ^Warlord^.
And this is not for me anymore.
For me BF2 was really a turning point (from various simulators to this FPS), and a real fun for many years and many ^long^ we (until the closure of Gamespy) ... but nothing in life ^is forever^... and now, obviously, it's just like a ^broken old toy^: many good memories but now basically useless.

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I will follow you a while, even if I already imagine ^the direction^ of your SF server, and I wish you all many beautiful and satisfying matches.

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Riddick_2K

P.S.
Sorry for my bad english, but I must use Google.

22.01.2019, 17:07 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
@Riddick_2K as I wrote you in my first PM, as unfortunate as it sounds we do not get many feedback on the Forum, regarding the Special Forces server. We do get feedback in-game though, via chat messages or by witnessing players disconnecting when certain maps load (for example, we noticed that Devils Perch would kill the server, when we used to run it a couple years ago).

What I mean is: the voices in this thread are from people that care about SF and that are usually good at it. These people usually like most of the maps or if not, they don't mind to play the night maps because they can handle it. The same is not true at all for the rest of the players who join the game server but don't use the Forum at all.

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About the whole paragraph regarding video card drivers and telling that to the average BF2 player ... [toggle=read more]are you out of your mind!?

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ahah It is already difficult to let them understand they can press a button (7) to enable night vision, because most of the new players are unaware of it. How the heck do you expect me to instruct them to perform all of the complicated things you mentioned!? lol Seriously, impossible.

They don't bother to check the Forums to give feedback, so how do you expect to convey all those infos in-game ... that's simply not possible. For your information there's also a limit for the server's welcome message text, and we cannot certainly clutter the scrolling messages with those complex informations which - I have the feeling - cannot be applied on everyone's PC / Monitor anyways.

Do you want to create a tutorial about it? Be my guest!
But you should at least test it on more modern monitors and video cards, don't you think?

TL;DR Night vision is enough and that's the way it works, no need (for us, or any other new player) to tinker with settings that are applied globally, just to play 3 maps. Seriously. You can do how you please on your own PC though and ... "CRT monitor" ... really?[/toggle]
I will delve into the discussion regarding why you are not even trying to set foot in our server via PM, but ... you say you generally prefer no-rules servers and that you won't bother joining our SF server if we don't run all the maps. You say you can handle a bit of restrictions (regarding the rules) and that you would be willing to play the maps that you don't like, if you are then able to play Leviathan and Devils Perch in return. You say that you don't share the same mindset of the players that leave the server if the map isn't their favorite, but then you say "if there are not those that I like, I will not even go there" which is exactly what you despise? ...

Regarding your view of our rules instead, I don't want to start writing essays here as I am used to do, so I'll just reply here, where the discussion about rules belongs to. If you want to discuss further about our rules on the Special Forces server, please reply there.

"It is probably the end now "obvious" for the SF: rare players and all only on ^Ghost Town^ and ^Warlord^."
I have no words for this ... uhm ... have I already mentioned we run SIX maps and we are about to add Leviathan too?

And that we have established a playerbase of regular players that now get the server running with their efforts alone, even during the week days?

I honestly had the impression that you registered to give feedback because you actually played on our SF server and saw the scrolling message about giving us some feedback here in the Forum, but apparently my assumption was incorrect and you never played on it, you never even tried to join it.

We managed to bring back Special Forces in one month, and now we play regularly and during the weekends we usually get 20 players. This Sunday we had 24 players (without counting bots), tonight (Tuesday!!) we were already 20 at 18:45 on Warlord!! (picture taken whilst still on Surge, 18 humans: Screenshot_20190122-183934.png).

"I will follow you a while, even if I already imagine "the direction" of your SF server, and I wish you all many beautiful and satisfying matches."
Well, you obviously missed it entirely as our direction for the future of the SF server is pointing towards server growth and being able to eventually run all maps somehow. If you can't figure that out by yourself, by reading just the last two pages (since you don't even bother to join the game) well ... I guess you are not fit to play on our server, are you?

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Best regards,
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22.01.2019, 23:07 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts

our direction for the future of the SF server is pointing towards server growth and being able to eventually run all maps somehow

Exactly this is our long term goal. But it needs time to achieve, and first we have to increase our popularity even further and establish a solid playerbase, that we are actually able to run those maps without killing the server entirely. Things like this requires some time, but we have already managed to revive a nearly dead game in just a few weeks.

As Shark said, we have quite full servers now, not only on weekends, even during the week, like today with 18 human players on Surge (!!), a number you only could dream of a few weeks ago and I haven't even seen during the battlelog era with an even bigger playerbase.
Leviathan may be added very soon to our rotation, so that we are running a total of 7 different maps, including 3 of the 4 maps you stated as "most beautiful" in your initial post.

So all I can hope for is some patience and that you are willing to help us to achieve our goal. There are already lots of good matches and intense fights for the flags (even without clays in flag zone, believe it or not), we are hearing a lot of positive feedback regarding the servers. So please give it a try and check the server out.

Oh and let me add one more thing: i think our admins are doing a great job most of the time, we spend lots of our time to get servers started and populated, to respond to feedback or ban appeals, to check player reports, to observe players, to check our Demos to collect evidence for rulebreakers, to monitor our logs and so on... We do know very well what is happening on our servers, and I think nobody here gets a unfair treatment, everyone will be listened to and nobody will be banned without a valid reason. On the other hand we like to give players a second chance. Of course, everyone can have a bad day and mistakes can happen, we are only humans.

Cheers.

17.02.2019, 15:46 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
what about add levi and devils today or next weekend? the server runs good on weekends and maybe its good time to test them, see if and how many people will leave.
some asked me for those maps, some would like to play them.
see how it goes on the weekend if its no instant serverkill then keep them for the week and see what happens then?

proposed mapcycle:
warlord
ghost town
iron gator
surge
nightflight
warlord
ghost town
mass destruction
leviathan
devils perch

or maybe switch mass destruction with levi or perch so there wont be 2 nightmaps in a row.
on the other hand, if the first night map kills server then it wont matter what comes after it.. idk.
other ideas?

17.02.2019, 22:32 - SW03_Carbon - Administrator - 458 Posts
i would like to test the 32 map size version of Leviathan, I think 64 size could be a little bit too big if there are only few players.

18.02.2019, 13:58 - dsghsdf - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 83 Posts
levi didnt have the best start yesterday but i think we should try the 64 size a few more times.
im not sure if the 32 will help, maybe it will but then it will be like night flight. less flags, cars only and night.
different layout but basicly same vehicles like night flight.

about the commander, again...
it would be really nice if you could raise the player threshold. 6+1 per team to enable com is to low, imo.
the last days somebody went com as soon as the treshold was reached.
com makes teams even more unbalanced. even if 2 coms are active, if only one knows about manual spots then that team has huge advantage already.
good uav, arty and supply placement and other team has no chance. red dots make it easier for nadecamper on roofs too.
without uav/spots they have to move atleast some or chance is high that they wont see and kill much.
without uav they have to watch for enemys themself, means they can be spotted by enemys and can be killed.
with uav they can lay down in some corner and just wait for red dots to spam their nades.
com is like minimap hack for all, where is the fun if you always know where the enemy is and what he is doing?

18.02.2019, 18:35 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
What do the others think? Keep in mind our player cap is set to 48 at the moment.

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05.03.2019, 10:48 - Silvestri - Leading Aircraftman - 8 Posts
Friends, Hello!Why can't I get a veteran Grappling hook and Zip line badge?Already done more 100 times!What could be the problem?

08.03.2019, 13:17 - Silvestri - Leading Aircraftman - 8 Posts
Friends!Why all silent?Who will answer my question?

08.03.2019, 14:25 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
This is not a "support" topic, nobody will answer your question here.
This is a feedback thread; and it's already hard to get on-topic replies.

You are going off-topic, nobody is going to reply in this topic.
Create a new topic if you are looking for support (besides what I already told you on Discord

).

This is the correct Forum Board: https://www.lost-soldi...hp?site=forum&board=4.
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08.03.2019, 20:37 - Silvestri - Leading Aircraftman - 8 Posts
Thanks Shark!

28.04.2019, 20:34 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

We added Leviathan (64) to the rotation long ago but I forgot to update the thread. Anyways we are switching to Leviathan (32) as

SW03_Carbon said multiple times because every time that we managed to play this map, it was simply too big (and quite frankly I don't feel comfortable to test our luck by altering the rotation live, during a full game, to see how many stay or leave on Leviathan (64), so we will try the 32 size now).

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Surge	• Surge
• Warlord	• Night Flight
• Ghost Town	• Warlord
• Mass Destruction	• Ghost Town
• Night Flight	• Mass Destruction
	• Leviathan (32)

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

@Carbon So do you mean you wouldn't change the current threshold for commander?
(id est 24: 10 bots + 14 humans). I think it works ok for the moment. [20.01.2019]

dsghsdf wrote:

[...] about the commander, again... it would be really nice if you could raise the player threshold. 6+1 per team to enable com is to low, imo. The last days somebody went com as soon as the treshold was reached.

I would like to bring this topic up once more, now that our server is finally more popular and our current record is set to 38 (10 bots + 28 humans) - and by the way it looks set in stone too, yesterday (Saturday) we reached 38 again after a long time - I noticed the same behaviour too: people seem to go Commander as soon as the threshold gets reached.

Most of the times it's not so terrible, but I feel that since the server has grown in popularity (and player numbers have increased too, on the good nights that is), we should increase the threshold by 2 or 4 units. What do you think about this? Thank you very much.

Kind regards,
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29.04.2019, 01:02 - PlayerAlpha - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 76 Posts
I agree with reducing the size of Leviathan to 32; it definitely felt big and it's one of my less favorite maps in the rotation.

I personally don't mind Commanders in the larger rounds, but I agree that 6+1 per team for one seems a little low. Maybe raise the threshold to 9 or 10 players per team?

30.04.2019, 14:43 - Fabione23 - Leading Aircraftman - 7 Posts
38 OUHAOU
Good job Shark & LS crew!

Personnaly I'd prefer rounds of 30mn (play each side, 2rounds per map) on ALL sf maps smiling

And allow fightin' commander altough with 2 human players smiling

BUT,
don't change anything it's perfect like this!

Long life LS!

08.05.2019, 08:10 - [SER]23. - - 2 Posts
Hey guys. Shark told me to give my wish here. Please repeat iron gator in map rotation twice too. I remember iron gator was the most played SF map in the good old days, together with warlord.

I think this will help the server to get more people the come, too.

08.05.2019, 08:27 - Fabione23 - Leading Aircraftman - 7 Posts
I'm for:
2rounds of 30mn per map
Fighting commander allowed with 6 human players and more
And+1 for Chris Iron Gator was most popular than others and need to be played twice in a rotation like warlord and Ghost Town

08.05.2019, 08:39 - [SER]23. - - 2 Posts
I think 30min per map and 2 rounds would be OK. Commander I agree too! Let's do it.

11.05.2019, 12:30 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

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Quoted from BF2Hub's Discord (#general channel).

roxxy27091987 wrote

Hey at all. So I would be that devils perch is recorded, and iron is used 2 times. But please, please no comander at 6 players. as it is now it is enough.

Ok guys, THANK YOU for the feedback, I hear you.
It's about damn time we give Devils Perch a shot, what do you say!?

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Surge	• Surge
• Night Flight	• Night Flight
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Iron Gator
• Mass Destruction	• Devils Perch (32)
• Leviathan (32)	• Ghost Town
	• Mass Destruction
	• Leviathan (32)

• Commander threshold bumped from 24 to 26 units (will be active next week),
• New setup (testing): 2 rounds (30 mins), instead of 1 round (1 hour).

Best regards, and spread the word around with the newcomers! We gather people throw Discord, to push LIVE notifications during the matches and sort of bost the match.

Invite link: lost-soldiers.org/discord

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11.05.2019, 18:09 - Fabione23 - Leading Aircraftman - 7 Posts
+1 for 30mn maps
That will give a revenge
+1 for Iron Gator twice TY
What do u think guyz and girlz about a warlord only Infantry sometimes??
Good job Shark, once more

11.05.2019, 21:54 - Imperial_Toaster - Junior Technician - 106 Posts
Personally I would like to have the timer set to 45 minutes instead of 30. 30 minutes is not enough when the teams are balanced and there is no ticket bleed. We ended 2 matches with over 100 tickets to spare due to the timer running out. Both matches were just about to really pick up and an extra 15 minutes would have made a huge difference.

Edit: +1 for devil's perch

11.05.2019, 22:08 - Imperial_Toaster - Junior Technician - 106 Posts

Fabione23 wrote:

What do u think guyz and girlz about a warlord only Infantry sometimes??

Hmm. We could probs try this on our infantry server if people wanted to, but I wouldn't make the regular SF server Warlord inf only. Mainly because it has become known as "the" SF server and personally I play SF just for the kits & vehicles. What I'd like to see on "the" server would be a weekend of Warlord / ghost town / (maybe iron gator) only and see how that would play out. They are the most popular SF maps and I have noticed that many people leave when we play the other, less popular maps.

11.05.2019, 23:35 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Thank you for the feedback so far. I didn't manage to play tonight but I hope to be able to see how this new test profile plays out (2 rounds, 30 minutes), see if Imperial_Toaster's hunch is correct on most maps or not.

Keep the good times coming! Did anyone manage to play Devils Perch tonight??
Apparently not, you made it to Night Flight only (currently playing).

@_Dominiko_PL, @fabione23, @SelmanAga, @tobi8080, @roxxy27091987
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13.05.2019, 23:30 - Roxxy - Corporal - 249 Posts
I am again joining as devils was. but there was no one left or only tobi and I think dominiko. I'm glad if we can play it properly. maybe on the weekend smiling

thanks shark

26.05.2019, 21:47 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Fabione23 wrote:

+1 for 30mn maps
That will give a revenge

What kind of revenge do you expect on maps like Ghost Town ... this setup actually kills the buzz as you end up playing two broken rounds and you never get to a clear victory (just win by tickets after the 30 minutes run out).

The setting will be changed back to how it was before: 1 round, 60 minutes match time. This is for the better. We have the popular maps in the rotation twice anyways, no need for a "revenge", broken round, which feels like a robbery (cops vs bandits) more than an actual proper match.

Changes / suggestions will be discussed in greater detail from now on, before turning them on.
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28.05.2019, 16:04 - PlayerAlpha - Senior Aircraftman (Technician) - 76 Posts
After playing Perch for a little bit yesterday, I actually thought it was not that bad. Personally I would like to keep it and instead remove Leviathan from the rotation, as I prefer Perch much more than Leviathan.

28.05.2019, 20:05 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Thanks for your feedback @PlayerAlpha, but after such a long way to add these (night) maps, I don't think we are going to remove them. We reduced Leviathan to 32 size because it was too big, but let's hear what the others have to say about it. I haven't actually played Devils Perch yet! Good fights tonight though, 32/48 peak! smiling

07.08.2019, 20:45 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
SPECIAL FORCES EVENT this Saturday 10th August at 18:00 CEST — Special Forces Infantry Only Event!
All Battlefield 2 events hosted by Lost-Soldiers are available at this page.

Map rotation: Warlord (32), Iron Gator (16), Iron Gator (32), Night Flight (32), Ghost Town (32), Surge (16), Devil's Perch (16). It will be 1 round per map according to the vote in our Forum, 60 minutes match. For any question, doubt or feedback, please reply to: lost-soldiers.org/v2.p...orum_topic&topic=1164.

If a match will end up too shortly (eg. 10 minutes), the map will be re-played immediately. Commander will not be enabled, vehicles will be disabled (DUH

), no claymores allowed in flag radius (please pay attention to this rule which is to be followed during regular matches too).

Feel free to share this invitation with your buddies! If you (or them) do not have Special Forces (or even the whole game), just message me and I will get them set up pronto!

SATURDAY 10TH AUGUST 18:00 CEST = www.timeanddate.com (in your country).
Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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10.08.2019, 09:44 - - - 1 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

SPECIAL FORCES EVENT this Saturday 10th August at 18:00 CEST — Special Forces Infantry Only Event!
Map rotation: (...) Iron Gator (32), (...) vehicles will be disabled (DUH

), (...)

What the hell, hahaha! Are you insane or something? How is that supposed to work?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/d/d5/Iron-gator-32.jpg

10.08.2019, 14:37 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I have tested all the maps personally. smile

There will be boats, just boats, to board the carrier.
It will be funny to survive but we must play as a Team!

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10.08.2019, 22:07 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

I have tested all the maps personally. smile

There will be boats, just boats, to board the carrier.
It will be funny to survive but we must play as a Team!

Ok definitely got this one wrong.

ahah
But anyways, thanks for all the feedback and for playing with us!

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26.11.2019, 09:40 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

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SPECIAL FORCES SNIPER ONLY EVENT!
This Saturday 30th November at 21:00 CET
IP: SF.LOST-SOLDIERS.ORG Port: 16571

Map rotation: Warlord (32), Night Flight (32), Ghost Town (32), Surge (32), Warlord (64), Night Flight (64), Ghost Town (64), Surge (64). As the event starts we will be on 32 sized maps, when more players join us we will jump onto the bigger maps. It will be 1 round per map, 60 minutes match as usual. For any question, doubt or feedback, please reply to this thread or reach out to me on Discord.

Matches aren't expected to finish shortly because the main focus will be the sniper kills, objectives will be secondary: we strongly incourage the likes of you who want to PTFO to play strictly "flag by flag" during the event in order to prevent full-caps. Friendly fire will be enabled as well so try to make this a realistic experience and capture flags in the natural order.

Commander and vehicles will be disabled, grenades and claymores will be limited, no claymores allowed in flag radius (please pay attention to this rule which is to be followed during regular matches too). All kits besides sniper will be disabled (selecting a different kit will still spawn you with a sniper rifle so just select the sniper kit at all times, thank you).

Feel free to share this invitation with your buddies, let's meet on TeamSpeak for the event! FYI if you (or them) do not have Special Forces (or even the whole game), it's not a problem at all; just have them message me and I will get them set up pronto!

SATURDAY 30TH NOVEMBER 21:00 CET = www.timeanddate.com (in your country).
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26.11.2019, 19:31 - Shvanni - Leading Aircraftman - 14 Posts

[LS] Special Forces Event: Sniper Battles 2019
Twitch Stream by Shvanni: twitch.tv/515885737

Round	Map	Time	Best Sniper	Points	Kills
Round #0	Warlord	0:00:10	LisaFromNetherlands	48	18
Round #1	Warlord	0:08:40	Shvanni	56	28
Round #2	Night Flight	0:22:30	LisaFromNetherlands	75	28
Round #3	Ghost Town	0:52:30	Shvanni	85	37
Round #4	Surge	1:13:30	SelmanAga	54	20
Round #5	Warlord	1:32:30	Shvanni	91	48
Round #6	Night Flight	1:58:20	Revextor_	63	16
Round #7	Ghost Town	2:28:10	SelmanAga	99	45
Round #8	Surge	2:57:40	Shvanni	31	15
Round #9	Warlord	3:08:30	SelmanAga	65	28
Round #10	Warlord	3:30:20	_Dominiko_PL	47	18
Round #11	Night Flight	3:46:00	SelmanAga	48	23
Round #12	Ghost Town	4:06:50	_Dominiko_PL	78	32
Round #13	Surge	4:33:00	_Dominiko_PL	49	21
Round #14	Warlord	4:52:40	Kuhni2310	90	36
Round #15	Ghost Town	5:27:40	S_h_a_r_k_93	96	25
Round #16	Warlord	6:00:40	Aim&Shoot	49	19
Round #17	Night Flight	6:22:20	Aim&Shoot	29	13
Round #18	Ghost Town	6:39:30	Aim&Shoot	83	29
Round #20	Surge	7:06:00	?	?	?

*note: only points with sniper kit are taken into consideration using the "top scores" end screen

Top Sniper Scores

1. SelmanAga [99]
2.

S_h_a_r_k_93 [96]
3.

Shvanni [91]

Most Sniper Kills

1.

Shvanni [48]
2. SelmanAga [45]
3. Kuhni2310 [36]

Top Clay-whore

1. SelmanAga

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26.11.2019, 21:13 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Shvanni wrote:

should be a rule against fullcap if you want the games to last, maybye make it like flag by flag. that will generate most kills and action. but hey im not event holder smile

just my opinion.

But we are looking forward for feedback! So your opinion, especially considering your skills on the Battlefield, is much appreciated. Oh and welcome to the Forum as well by the way!

Regards,
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26.11.2019, 23:52 - Roxxy - Corporal - 249 Posts
i wonder a little bit why so late?
so I do not care about it.
but what about the others? the last events were at an earlier time.

27.11.2019, 00:35 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Roxxy wrote:

i wonder a little bit why so late?

Because if I recall correctly people wouldn't show up at 18:00 CET anyways.

I'll ask to the other members if 21:00 CET is too late for them, but I guess not. You mean that either way it's fine for you, correct? Do you think that your sniper friend will have problems at this time of the evening?

Let me know, cheers.
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27.11.2019, 00:50 - Roxxy - Corporal - 249 Posts
I do not care. i‘ll be there. no matter what time.
he has problems with his pc. I hope it works for him until Saturday.

27.11.2019, 08:08 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Roxxy wrote:

he has problems with his pc. I hope it works for him until Saturday.

Oh, I thought it was the "he" that turned out to be a "she".

27.11.2019, 18:06 - Roxxy - Corporal - 249 Posts
Oh it’s Not chloe. It’s a friend from chloe

30.11.2019, 16:30 - TriixY - - 2 Posts
hello smiling

guess im alive amused

still room for me to join in? I got referred by penguin tongue

01.12.2019, 03:17 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Of course TriixY! And I am looking forward to your mini compilation of clips like you did the last time!

Regards,
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01.12.2019, 12:13 - TriixY - - 2 Posts
haha for sure smiling

its not the best tho tongue

https://streamable.com/hltem

02.12.2019, 07:44 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
But it will do, thank you!

02.12.2019, 10:28 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

[LS] Special Forces Event: Sniper Battles 2019
Twitch Stream by Shvanni: twitch.tv/515885737

EVENT STATISTICS MOVED HERE

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02.12.2019, 23:27 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Imperial_Toaster wrote:

+1 for devil's perch

Roxxy wrote:

I am again joining as devils was. but there was no one left or only tobi and I think dominiko.
I'm glad if we can play it properly. maybe on the weekend smiling

thanks shark

PlayerAlpha wrote:

After playing Perch for a little bit yesterday, I actually thought it was not that bad. Personally I would like to keep it and instead remove Leviathan from the rotation, as I prefer Perch much more than Leviathan.

Hello,

why does it seem to me like this map is never played? The 64 sized one is one of the biggest night maps I've seen, perhaps we have to scale it back or actually remove it because seriously, I only get skip requests when this map is about to be played.

Let me know, regards.
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05.12.2019, 21:29 - Shvanni - Leading Aircraftman - 14 Posts
Guess traveling and getting stuck on one island is maybye not so much fun for people?, like the map tho.

06.12.2019, 09:08 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
I have rarely played it in 64 size ... for the amount of players we get in the last months, 64 is a bit of an overkill. It is exactly the same situation when we had Leviathan 64 ... people surely appreciate the map (I am guessing it has better marks than Night Flight overall), but because of its size people would leave the server (as it was too big for too few people).

One thing that not many players know is that they can issue a map-vote ... but the problem being the bots will also account for the result so it is impossible to make a successful vote.

Thank you for your feedback, regards
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22.01.2020, 01:19 - PooDy - Leading Aircraftman - 8 Posts
SO hello there to you all tongue

Suggestion for a server was for SF put inf only but looks like a lot of people like the vehicles so depends on you guys, if not never mind i would like to play again with you soon smiling

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22.01.2020, 14:06 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Hello PooDy and I'm glad you've joined in on the fun, and took the time to write your thoughts and preferences about the server. Unfortunately the infantry/vehicle setting is server-based, not map-based; this means that it is a global setting that will apply to all the maps.

In general the players like to play Special Forces especially to be able to pilot vehicles that are not in the vanilla maps, for example the pudding apc Laugh

or some helicopters. We have done a Special Forces Infantry Only event in the past though, perhaps we can try to create a new one in the future, with a little bit of improvements.

The link to first edition of the Special Forces Infantry Only event can be found here. We have also done a Sniper Only event, the information about it and event rankings can be found here, for the first edition of the event.
Kind regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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08.05.2020, 00:15 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
SPECIAL FORCES EVENT ANNOUNCEMENT: this Saturday 9th May starting 20:00 CEST — Special Forces Infantry Only Event! All Battlefield 2 events hosted by Lost-Soldiers are available at this page.

We will play these maps with no vehicles: Warlord, Mass Destruction, Leviathan, Ghost Town, Surge, Night Flight. For any question, doubt or feedback, please reply to this post.

Commander disabled, vehicles disabled, no claymore in flag radius (please pay attention to this rule which is to be followed during regular matches too), friendly fire enabled (50%), limited explosives, unlocks allowed.

Feel free to extend this invitation to your buddies and in other servers!! If you do not have Special Forces (or even the whole game), just message me and I will get you up and running pronto.

SATURDAY 9TH MAY STARTING 20:00 CEST = www.timeanddate.com (in your country).
Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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22.05.2020, 08:55 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

[LS] Special Forces Event: Infantry Only 2020
Twitch Stream by Shvanni: twitch.tv/616805569
YouTube Stream commented by Gmodism: youtu.be/bLCARw75RCs

MONTAGES

Thank you to all the content creators & streamers for the support!
We hope to see all of you in our next events, we will have some fun!!

Event turnout gallery available here!! lost-soldiers.org/gallery/galleryID-65
(keep in mind each registered user has 1 GB of space to host pictures!!)

23.12.2020, 13:55 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
There's been some feedback in Discord lately, namely Malakeezy suggested running more 32-size maps instead of 64 but the problem/decision of having most if not all maps 64 is so that helicopters can be used, in 32 they would not be on the maps (maybe only Iron Gator would retain them, not sure).

Badguys suggested team randomization due to witnessing unbalance sometimes but I'm afraid the fake clients would also get randomized. I remind in-game administrators to always create a balanced game, by either switching themselves or switching other players (usually switching yourself and carrying the team works best).

Finally Devils Perch has started to create some trouble lately, so for the moment we will remove it.
This means that the second repetition of Ghost Town and Iron Gator must be inverted otherwise there is no team-swap and you play the same faction (this holds true as long as there are no manual map-changes):

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Surge	• Surge
• Night Flight	• Night Flight
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Iron Gator	• Ghost Town
• Devils Perch (32)	• Iron Gator
• Ghost Town	• Mass Destruction
• Mass Destruction	• Leviathan (32)
• Leviathan (32)

• Commander threshold was 28 units since October,
• We have 1 round (of 1 hour) with team-swap, so Warlord/Ghost Town/Iron Gator are now
in same order (easier to remember) and shifted by one to play the opposite team when the
second batch comes (if there were no map-skips / map-changes by a Donator or Admin)

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05.02.2021, 13:42 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

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SPECIAL FORCES SNIPER ONLY EVENT!
Next Sunday 14th February at 18:00 CET
IP: SF.LOST-SOLDIERS.ORG Port: 16570
(basically on our new SF Infantry Server, not on the main one)

Commander and vehicles will be disabled, grenades and claymores will be limited, no claymores allowed in flag radius (please pay attention to this rule which is to be followed during regular matches too). All kits besides sniper will be disabled (selecting a different kit will still spawn you with a sniper rifle so just select the sniper kit at all times, thank you).

Feel free to share this invitation with your buddies, for this event we'll meet in the BF2 Events General Discord channel. SUNDAY 14TH FEBRUARY 18:00 CET = www.timeanddate.com (countdown link).

Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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08.03.2021, 13:11 - =DK=Rohtez - Leading Aircraftman - 13 Posts
I am enjoing playing almost every day on the SF server, one thing that very iritating are idling some times you joining a team and with 10 players and only 5 of them playing , and on the othere site there is 9 players, Is it posible too kick idling players. Without even team ? ,,,... We like too play with the same m8´s , so NO even teams plsss :-)

10.03.2021, 01:35 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Hello Rohtez, first of all thank you again for your donation smiling

and thanks for leaving support in the SF topic. Now regarding your inquiry, what do you mean with "kicking but without evening the team"?

From what I could see, players usually seem to go AFK after one round is over and the next level loads, perhaps they do not want to play it or they've literally gone AFK. Yes idlers can be kicked, but in the beginning of the round you usually wait for them to spawn.

How can you determine an AFK user if you don't wait some time first. smile

What can be done is that an Officer or Staff Officer moves the idle players around (or the fake clients), thus balancing the idlers without kicking them from the server (same amount of idlers for both teams); if they don't turn up anymore they can be kicked in the end.

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12.04.2021, 13:32 - =DK=Rohtez - Leading Aircraftman - 13 Posts
Its not a problem anymore people are getting better to leave :-) ....

14.08.2021, 18:31 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Referring to my most recent changelog message, :

S_h_a_r_k_93 wrote:

Devils Perch has started to create some trouble lately, so for the moment we will remove it.
• Commander threshold was 28 units since October 2020

OLD ROTATION:	NEW ROTATION:
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Ghost Town	• Ghost Town
• Iron Gator	• Iron Gator
• Surge	• Surge
• Night Flight	• Night Flight
• Warlord	• Warlord
• Iron Gator	• Ghost Town
• Devils Perch (32)	• Iron Gator
• Ghost Town	• Mass Destruction
• Mass Destruction	• Leviathan (32)
• Leviathan (32)

That "new" rotation has received an improvement with the following one, with the latest feedback that Warlord/Ghost Town are the best maps (in PlatonicSolid's topic):

OLD ROTATION V1.1:

Warlord

Ghost Town

Iron Gator

Warlord

Leviathan (32)

Surge

Ghost Town

Night Flight

Warlord

Iron Gator

Mass Destruction

Ghost Town

Devil's Perch

In the end though we went with PlatonicSolid's request and this is the current map rotation, I confirm that commander threshold is still set to minimum of 28 players:

NEW ROTATION V2.0

Warlord

Ghost Town

Iron Gator

Warlord

Ghost Town

Leviathan (32)

Warlord

Ghost Town

Surge

Warlord

Ghost Town

Iron Gator

Warlord

Ghost Town

Night Flight

Warlord

Ghost Town

Mass Destruction

Warlord

Ghost Town

Devil's Perch (32)

Kind regards,
Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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05.11.2021, 20:05 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

PlatonicSolid's V2.0B (without 2 night maps)	Old rotation V1.1B (without 2 night maps)	New rotation 1.2 (without 2 night maps) W,GT,IG = 2,2,2 - 9 in total = restart swap

Warlord	Warlord	Warlord
Ghost Town	Iron Gator	Iron Gator
Iron Gator	Ghost Town	Ghost Town
Warlord	Warlord	Warlord
Ghost Town	Surge	Surge
Surge	Ghost Town	Mass Destruction
Warlord	Warlord	Iron Gator
Ghost Town	Night Flight	Ghost Town
Iron Gator	Ghost Town	Night Flight
Warlord	Warlord
Ghost Town	Iron Gator
Night Flight	Ghost Town
Warlord	Warlord
Ghost Town	Mass Destruction
Mass Destruction	Ghost Town
Warlord
Ghost Town

Iron Gator is after 6 so it's not swapping teams; for the rest it's good	No Iron Gator problem, it's actually a re-worked 1.1 version	Simpler rotation, there is that Night Flight UK thing otherwise it's good

06.11.2021, 07:15 - =DK=Rohtez - Leading Aircraftman - 13 Posts
Looking for a webpage , with a nice overview of SF maps ecc. ? : https://battlefield.fa...lefield_2:_Special_Forces

07.11.2021, 03:08 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts
Yes, thanks =DK=Rohtez! I've actually used that one when I was in doubt of the factions in particular levels smile

19.04.2022, 11:47 - Rotblut - Chief Technician - 900 Posts
What about putting Devils Perch into the rotation?

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09.06.2023, 11:32 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

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SPECIAL FORCES FILL THE SERVER EVENT!
Tonight Friday 9th June at 19:00 CEST
IP: SF.LOST-SOLDIERS.ORG Port: 16569

Commander and vehicles will be enabled, grenades and claymores will be limited, no claymores allowed in flag radius (please pay attention to this rule which is to be followed during regular matches too). We will try to play all maps in all sizes available, depending on the player population; map vote is unfortunately not working (due to the fake clients counting as automatic 'No' votes), so I will take map requests in chat.

Feel free to share this invitation with your buddies, for this event we'll meet in our Discord voice channel. FRIDAY 9TH JUNE 21:00 CEST = www.timeanddate.com (countdown link).

Regards, Staff Officer S_h_a_r_k_93

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01.07.2023, 11:07 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Old rotation 1.2 (without 2 night maps) W,GT,IG = 2,2,2 - 9 in total = restart swap	New rotation 1.2B (changed to 32 size) W,GT,IG = 2,2,2 - 9 in total = restart swap

Warlord	Warlord
Iron Gator	Iron Gator
Ghost Town	Ghost Town
Warlord	Warlord
Surge	Surge
Mass Destruction	Mass Destruction
Iron Gator	Iron Gator
Ghost Town	Ghost Town
Night Flight	Devil's Perch (16)

Simpler rotation, there's that Night Flight UK thing otherwise it's good	With lower server population, comes lower map sizes for a more streamlined / easier-to-start match

02.03.2024, 01:20 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

Old rotation 1.2B (changed to 32 size) W,GT,IG = 2,2,2 - 9 in total = restart swap	New rotation 1.2C (Night Flight returns in rotation) W,GT,IG = 2,2,2 - 9 in total = restart swap

Warlord	Warlord
Iron Gator	Iron Gator
Ghost Town	Ghost Town
Warlord	Warlord
Surge	Surge
Mass Destruction	Mass Destruction
Iron Gator	Iron Gator
Ghost Town	Ghost Town
Devil's Perch (16)	Night Flight (16)

With lower server popul., come lower map sizes for a more streamlined / easier-to-start match	Thanks to the latest Fill The Server events, the server got busier again, as a result I believe NF is an easier night map to run. It'll also run in 16 size so tickets will be 100 (ergo less play time)

Following up on NewKiller's request we've ran 3 successful SF vehicle nights for 3 Sundays in a row, starting at 18:00 CET the first time and around 17:00 CET afterwards. I'm very pleased with the turnout, a little less than 40 Discord users marked themselves as interested and we've managed to actually fill the server with 64 human players, no fake clients! This hasn't happened in years (I recall a full Leviathan perhaps in 2020).

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29.04.2024, 00:22 - phatscat - - 2 Posts
Stoked to join the next one!!!

30.04.2024, 08:18 - S_h_a_r_k_93 - Administrator - 5396 Posts

phatscat wrote:

Stoked to join the next one!!!

Thank you phatscat and welcome to our Forums! Make yourself home.
Out of curiosity, where did you come to the Forum from?
I used to run a www.lost-soldiers.org/SF url redirect in the game's scrolling messages.

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30.04.2024, 15:01 - phatscat - - 2 Posts
I remember seeing the server up in BF2S and wanting to see when it was actually being played, and just typing in "lost soldier BF2" in google. Bam I'm here amused